I guess I just don't "get it":
  • Posted by: speedofdark_Linda



    Squashed: No, I am not a Deerhoof fan either.  We saw them open for Radiohead last summer.   Very amusing, but I don't have any reason to listen to it.  Hey, I can help with that list.  Put Frogeyes on it.

     The drumming on the last Deerhoof album was awesome and made it a recent favorite.

  • deerhoof are amazing.  greg's a fucking great drummer.
  • they were pretty good opening for Radiohead, but i have no desire to ever listen to their records
  • Apple O and Reveille are absolutely listenable. The very last one is ok. radiohead/big staidum sound doesn't do them good.



    am posting Joanna Newsom vs. horowitz vs. some dark ambient group.  (SC)
  • Posted by: speedofdark_LindaOh gosh, what a relief to read this thread.  I don't feel quite so sick and wrong now.



    Polyphonic Spree does nothing for me.

    I never got into Grateful Dead.

    I don't find Arcade Fire especially interesting.

    Wilco and Tweedy are OK. 

    But I don't get Joanna Newsom at all.



    I'm all done with drugs--at least the illegal ones--so that's just how it is.  No help from that quarter.

     what you said except for the grateful dead part (the album American Beauty is still one of my favorite albums of all time)

  • in answer to the obvious follow-up question, yes -- copious, heaping amounts and i did inhale
  • Is there any album that absolutely must be listened using psycho active substance or else it just crap?



    I vote for pink floyd .. that moon album. That group is POS without your head in total noodle state.
  • Posted by: Dave Rawkblogthey were pretty good opening for Radiohead, but i have no desire to ever listen to their records

    oh man, but their records are so good.  apple o, in particular.

  • Posted by: squashedIs there any that that absolutely must be listened using psycho active substance or else it just crap?



    I vote for pink floyd .. that moon album. That group is total POS without your head in total noodle state.

     


    I agree with that for Dark Side of the Moon as a whole, but if you want the cream of the crop, their greatest hits disc, "Echoes" is amazing, whether high or sober.
  • Posted by: matt_skatterbrain
    Posted by: Dave Rawkblogthey were pretty good opening for Radiohead, but i have no desire to ever listen to their records

    oh man, but their records are so good.  apple o, in particular.



     They're just not really my style. I can see what people like about them.


    I love the Grateful Dead but most of the time I'd rather listen to the first Crosby, Stills and Nash record.

  • I hope you are not going to start running around "I like alt. country before alt. country was cool"
  • i went to somewhere between 15 and 20 shows between 92 and 94 (with my hippie-ass uncle, who sold tie-dye everything).  i've long since given away all my bootlegs (except cornell '77), but am still fond of the following albums (*=classic):



    aoxomoxoa

    workingman's dead*

    american beauty*

    skull 'n roses (only for "bertha" though)

    europe '72*

    blues for allah

    terrapin station (only for the title track)

    go to heaven (way underappreciated)

    reckoning* (esp. for "ripple")

    in the dark (yeah, i know, "touch of grey." it's still a great song)



    i know they're hard to separate from the extratextual crap that followed them (like the dancing bear thing), but there's some wonderful music in there.


  • how about that episode of Freaks and Geeks where Lindsey becomes a Deadhead when that hot girl gives her "American Beauty" and she listens to it over and over. man that was a great show.
  • That was my least favorite part of the whole of Freaks and Geeks.  The final episode is beyond fantastic, but I still get annoyed at Lindsey for ditching everything to go be a deadhead.  Not rational, I know, but it still annoys me. 



    I think a case could be made for Freaks and Geeks as the best TV show of all-time.  I sure am glad they canceled it after one season.  Good job folks.
  • Posted by: squashedI hope you are not going to start running around "I like alt. country before alt. country was cool"

     Dude I listen to late-period Ryan Adams

  • I should not have looked in this thread. Dark Side of the Moon requires drugs to be enjoyed? Deerhoof sucks? Ugh.
  • look man, ya just have to prove it. Plus. it's summer, time to air out all sort of fun and weird idea. I'd say, put your your best shot proving pink floyd doesn't suck. ANd I'll say otherwise.  And you'll actually agree too. hah...
  • Okay. The Great Gig In The Sky.
  • Oh, nevermind.


     


     


    I almost let myself get into an argument with SQUASHED.  Time to get off the interblah.

  • Posted by: SayAnythingSyndromeOkay. The Great Gig In The Sky.

     




    what about it?

    (come on. I am on a roll here, help me out. I am about to piss about all of pink floyd fans out there.)
  • I haven't listened to it in a while - I lost that CD about two years ago, but from what I remember, it was pretty much just fucking amazing.
  • the huge reverb over simple blues riff stuff?
  • Pink Floyd is a little much for me in big doses but "Wish You Were Here" is a mother of a song.  Especially the "two lost souls swimming in a fishbowl" part.
  • Apparently Deerhoof does not suck if you only listen to the drums. 
  • no because detreich is as good at guitar as saunier is at drums, and satomi is just fucking great even if she just stood there, but no, she too, is an incredible musician.  they some of the best, most complex music out there right now.  and you can fucking dance to it, too.  whats not to love?


    seriously though, if you see them live.  youd think theres two guitarists playing.  john detreich is just so incredible.  plus its really awesome to see so much noise come from just a snare and a kick, and his weird pneumatic ride/crash hybrid thing.

  • I HAVE seen them live--although we had nosebleed seats at the Hollywood Bowl, so we didn't see them well.  I don't doubt that they are excellent musicians.  I think my problem is that their song structures don't make sense to me.  I haven't listened to them since, so I can't be more specific than that.
  • not that weird. Think up tempo 'Neu', 'Faust', or 'Minutement' with thicker sound.   "L'Amour Stories" I think is the most accessible.
  • Of those songs you named, Squashed, I could only find L'Amour Stories.  I did listen to others as I was looking, and I now think Deerhoof do have more accessible songs than I heard them play live.  I hear some kinship to Blonde Redhead, who I like quite a lot.



    Maybe this is a good question for a new thread:  If someone you respect--fellow blogger, whatever--tells you a band or song is good, and you listen to it and you just don't like it...how hard should you keep trying to like it?  I am having a difficult enough time listening to all the stuff I DO like to spend a lot of time on something I don't. 
  • Deerhoof is very generous with their songs and people on the net. They have their entier 3 albums posted online. And they also have deerhoof cover album posted with bunch of new bands. (I have the feeling every single one of their albums are posted online by somebody, including rarity VA stuff.)



    anyway, use wisely.

    http://puzzle.suchfun.net/deerhoof/



    I am posting deerhoof list on MdM. wooo...



    PS. These are band names

    Neu!

    Faust or

    Minutemen
  • Thanks, Squashed.  I didn't realize those are band names, not songs.  I've gotta focus on some other projects before I can spend more time on this, but I'll visit MdM, I promise. 
  • Re: Deerhoof



  • Posted by: speedofdark_Linda

    Maybe this is a good question for a new thread:  If someone you respect--fellow blogger, whatever--tells you a band or song is good, and you listen to it and you just don't like it...how hard should you keep trying to like it?  I am having a difficult enough time listening to all the stuff I DO like to spend a lot of time on something I don't. 

     i dunno, i think life is too short to worry about working to like a band that you really don't like--you know what i mean? on the other hand, sometimes people whose taste i trust actually are on to something, so it's kind of a mixed bag. like you said before, thank goodness we don't all have the same tastes and interests, otherwise we'd all be redundant!

  • Posted by: speedofdark_Linda

    Maybe this is a good question for a new thread:  If someone you respect--fellow blogger, whatever--tells you a band or song is good, and you listen to it and you just don't like it...how hard should you keep trying to like it?  I am having a difficult enough time listening to all the stuff I DO like to spend a lot of time on something I don't. 

     


    It's a conversation. There is no way you can't like things that you don't understand. I usually put stuff like that on the back of my head. There are a lot of thing I don't understand music is big body of knowledge afterall. But there are also things that I know for sure are POS. (rythm structure, execution, how the song elements blend, etc.) Once I go through with the obvious criteria and a lot of people I respect do have a point. Then I just leave it at that until I have more information.


    I like mixing it and what comes out of context.
  • uh.



    Kill rock star does not like the post. I have to remove it.

    uh. have to remove all Kill rock star material from the indie album list I guess.
  • Posted by: squasheduh.



    Kill rock star does not like the post. I have to remove it.

    uh. have to remove all Kill rock star material from the indie album list I guess.

    Oh, that's why it wasn't there when I looked for it right now.  I'm truly sorry I missed it.  That's interesting about Kill Rock Stars--making mental note to self right now.


    Meanwhile, I posted on Edith Piaf.  Is that too weird for a (mostly) indie/alt blog?  LOL

  • Posted by: Matt PicassoRe: Deerhoof




     You're right--that's some excellent drumming.

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