Who sends you good promo emails?
  • Radarmaker are awesome
  • Force Field PR is the best in my opinion. Great line up of bands, well written press releases and just overall great people.
  • I get so many it's hard to tell. Toolshed (Wendy) is my favorite. Kinda of off topic but related...... Back in '07, I used to receive a lot of CD's in the mail. And I really liked that. Nowadays, it seems that it's all done thru email via digital downloads. Which isn't a bad thing I guess. But, I would prefer to get an actual copy of a CD in the mail over a digital download. There is something about having a 'real' thing' to hold in your hands and listen to. Maybe what I should do is contact these PR folks and let them know I would rather receive a physical copy rather than a digital download? Anyone else feel the same way?
  • Merz - I feel the same way, but a lot of labels are switching to digital promos only to cut costs. Often if I request a physical CD, I'm told that's not even an option any more. Not only do I prefer a physical CD, but my current internet setup makes digital albums a hassle (and that's when I can successfully download them). I guess I understand why it's easier and economically wiser for the labels do it, but I don't like it.
  • @ merz, @muruch

    I prefer physical copy as well. So far, when I make the request most seem happy to comply. But there are instances where I've been told it isn't available.

    We shouldn't admit this here, though. Squashed will come 'round and tell us we're supporting a dead format and as bloggers we should know better.
  • I'm another one that prefers CDs, but I can see the cost-saving of going digital.
    CDs always go to the top of the "to review" pile though, which I state clearly on the contact page.

    I get a few CDs (and can request more obviously), but they are more like a drop in the ocean compared to the digital side of thing.
  • I can't be the only one to think they just sound so much better! If I were promoting a folk artist or something in electronica that had some nuance to it, I would definitely send out CDs, there's a lot lost in an mp3, in my opinion, but I know someone (squashed?) is just gonna say that the difference is minimal. Just remember that women have sharper hearing than men plus, those of us who wear earplugs to shows and don't suffer from tinitus hear that difference. xoxo
  • Unless it's a record I've really been looking forward to and I'm going to buy anyway, I'm probably happier with digital. I'm only going to listen to it on my computer anyway, it saves people money on post, it saves money on padded envelopes, and saves space in my apartment by reducing the padded envelope pile. If I'm given the choice, I almost always ask for an email.

    That said, it is always nice to get an unexpected cd in the post that you can't wait to listen to. 4AD are especially awesome at this.
  • I prefer digital everything.  If I get a CD the chances of me listening to it beyond ripping the bugger are virtually nil.
  • I get the guilts something rotten when people post me CDs, mostly becuase 90% of them are unsolicited and turn out to be awful, so the only place they are going is the bin.  I always tell promo folk not to send me anything real unless I specifically ask for it.  Otherwise it's almost certainly a waste.
  • Oh, it definitely sounds better Tart. I mean, a properly sourced mp3 can sound just fine, but half the digital stuff I get is either transcoded or 128k. I know myself, and it's difficult for me to get into something unless I can hear the whole shebang. And there's something to be said for holding a CD in my grubby little paws.
  • I agree, I really prefer to have something tangible in my hands and it beats the hell out of these low quality 128k mp3's that these promo folks send. At last count, and I keep a running record, I have over 1,500 CD's in my collection. Right now most of them are in storage since I have been living out of a suitcase for a few years. But I view it as something rather important and when I pass from this world I will give that CD collection to my children as a legacy. Plus, I have a huge vinyl collection that is probably worth a few bucks now if I were to try to offload it (which I won't). And the kids will get that too. This digital shit is the future, I know, but man it really lacks substance. I can't get my hands around a bunch of bits and bytes like I can with the real thing.

    LOL at the Squashed comments. Some things just never change............
  • Oh, and as a side note........ Don't want to step on the toes of some good stuff that is going on in the digital world. Kevin (mp3hugger) has a class act going on with Indiecater Records and he offers very high quality mp3's. Now, that is something done right and I don't mind getting digital music that way. But these fucking low quallity shit mp3's that you get from the pr folks can go in the trash bin if you ask me....
  • Oh yes, that's a good point there. The digital stuff that is done right, is very much worth listening to. No insult intended at all, and of course, let's save fossil fuels and not make the fuckers all wrapped in plastic anymore, xoxo
  • I much prefer the digital distribution.  There are less steps from the PR person to my ears, I listen to everything on my ipod anyway, I actually don't own a CD Player :-p.  Also, it doesn't cost the PR person/Band anything to email a zip file to me, whereas the post is just cost upon cost.  I have, however, encountered a few really crap rips that are just disappointing.  I'm sorry, the difference in SOUND between 128 and even 192 is HUGE given the small difference in SIZE.  There's really no reason to send out crappy rips.
  • Shain and Anika at Fat Cat Records do a really good job, and they're nice to talk to as well.  Kudos to both of them.
  • Not that this is good by any measure... but did anyone else get this one??

    Hi,

    It's time for Skyscraper Media to update the rolodex, so please take a moment to fill out the information below and send it back to me. This information is very helpful to our working together; by taking a moment to reply to this email it assures that I keep you in our database of active contacts.

    Company/ Publication:
    Full Name/ Job Title:
    Address:
    State, City, Zip:
    Phone:
    Fax:
    Email:
    Website:

    If you're a freelance writer, please let me know what publications you currently write for.

    Also, Skyscraper Media has developed a new promo system that will keep journalists regularly informed about our client roster. If you opt-in to our digital music mailing list, we will give you access to the digital servicing of advances and press materials from the musicians we promote. It'll be the quickest and easiest way of hearing our new releases, so please let me know if you'd like to be added to the list and we'll start introducing you to new music right away.

    Thanks,
    Peter Bottomley

    _________________________
    SKYSCRAPER MEDIA
    Peter Bottomley
    P.O. Box 4432
    Boulder, CO 80306
    303-544-9858
    peter@skyscrapermedia.net
    www.skyscrapermedia.net
  • I did and I checked their roster just in case but was total crap imho.
  • This an old thread, but it's better than starting a new one and then being told about this one I guess...

    Got an email today from a marketing guy who told me wanted to send me something to celebrate the new Gorillaz release (never listened to/posted a Gorillaz track in my life).

    "We’d like to mail out a little gift to you. I can’t disclose the details but if you could advise your best postal address I would be delighted to send it over to you..."

    This is just weird. Yeah, ok, I'll just give you my address with no knowledge of what you're sending to me. There's a reason I don't have a postal address on my website, and I'm not about to give it out to anyone, let alone weirdos who act all mysterious and "can't disclose the details". Craziness!

    This gave me a chuckle too:

    "I cannot even begin the list the amount of artists I have discovered off your blog but thank you for the recent heads up on The Strugglers and Josh Ritter!"

    Apparently I'm the first person to ever blog about Josh Ritter. Imagine!
  • i'd tell you not to give them your address, but it seems you already got that covered.

    my guess is it is really a clueless pr person. in some ways, it would be less pathetic if the guy was actually trying to scam you.
  • Get a PO Box.



    I like Matt from StayLoose and Debbie from Createspark, both over here, both really nice people.
  • Oh, and could you also please imagine I said 'Get a PO Box' in a slightly less terse manner than it appears.  Sorry!
  • Thomas - clueless is about right!

    And not to worry Toad - it didn't strike me as terse until you made your apology comment! But thank you.

    *edited for typos. I need sleep. And to sit up while I'm typing instead of lolling about on the couch.
  • There is nothing wrong with or offensive about this sentence from a PR email I got last night, but it is nevertheless absolutely guaranteed to make me delete the email without ever listening to the track:

    "This radio-friendly epic track contains heartfelt lyrics and a powerful up-beat melody which complements the singer’s sensitive and emotionally prominent vocals."
  • Ahaha

    I've been getting sent quite a few recently that are just a link to bandcamp and/or myspace and the band name.
    I can't quite make my mind up whether I really like the minimalism of it or just think it's lazy.
  • I've found some of my favourite bands from some of the most abrupt, terse, uninformative emails. If they're written by the band rather than a PR person, then it seems to be a good omen.
  • "This radio-friendly epic track contains heartfelt lyrics and a powerful up-beat melody which complements the singer’s sensitive and emotionally prominent vocals."


    Reads like a standard line from 95% of mp3 blog reviews.

  • My new favorite:

    "I have been checking your blog for a minute and figured it would make sense to reach out with some of my material..."

    For a minute? Really! Well then it's no wonder you think I like electro-hop, whatever the hell that is.
  • Is that when you get shocked from bad wiring and jump backwards instinctively?
  • Had a string of fantastic submissions from Bridget at Planetary Group over the last few months.

    Also I can never resist a submission with a BandCamp link for some reason!
  • Stunt Company was rather disingenuous when they quoted Pitchfork saying, “…epic, millennial indie rock…” about one of my favourite albums of this year, Light Chasers by Cloud Cult. The album actually got a rather "meh" 5.4 review.
  • FOLLOW UP! Got this email from Stunt today in response to this post:

    While I don’t understand how you can call yourself a fan and still tear apart the band you support, that is your own choice and a subjective one at that. My concerns lie in the factual errors you made in your post. I’m not sure if you misinterpreted an email blast for a personal pitch, but the only personal email I ever sent to you was regarding the removal of an unauthorized MP3. We did not directly pitch you an album review, and why would we? You wrote a negative album review on 7/20. As for the email blast, the bottom portion is a quote sheet. We did not editorialize, it was a pull quote – that explicit wording is in the review. While this review in particular from Pitchfork did not give a high number rating, the reviewer did say some nice things about the band, which we used as a quote.

    As for the rest of the quotes, allow me to include direct links below where you can read firsthand the praise they wrote. See below.

    *list of review links*

    If you prefer not to receive general press updates regarding our artists, please let us know. We can easily remove you from our list. Hopefully, you’ll take another look at your post and realize that we have presented the facts in an honest manner, while you have taken a convoluted approach which has misrepresented our company and the band.


    ==========================

    Here's my response:

    I'm confused... I love this album & I love this band, this album is, at the moment, my album-of-the-year, beating out many other blogger faves by a long shot. Re-read:
    via http://tsururadio.com/2010/07/im-off-the-phone-im-listening-to-light-chasers-by-cloud-cult/

    ---

    Okay, when this first showed up on the intertubals I was out in about western Canada on vacation with my Baby. The initial word was that it was beautiful but with a big BUT… something was going on with the vocals that was tweaking out a few friends.

    I got nervous. I loved Feel Good Ghosts (Tea-partying Through Tornadoes) a couple years back, loved it with all my heart. We waited two stinking years for this and I just wasn’t ready to not like this.

    It went on the back-burner. I heard (and loved) “Running With The Wolves” but everyone was loving that, so no worries there….. Okay, enough of this, the Sprint story and telephone themed mixtape was up, it was finally and finally, yesterday, I gave it a whirl.

    Wow.

    First off… Is this a concept album? It feels like it. There’s a story going on, a story of a group of, well, light chasers. In that sense, it’s kinda proggy, it’s spacey, are they in space? Are they on a ship at sea? Are they in the wilderness, running with the wolves? Or is that a metaphor for just being free? What is the light? A new sun? Death? Happiness?

    I’ve listened 6, 7 times, not sure, and each time I think I got it, it just gives you more.

    The music is Cloud Cult, it’s also acoustic, tribal, electric, and even a hint of rap-rock (see “The Battles – Room Full of People In Your Head”). The album goes everywhere! Robotic autotune-like voices, whispers, yelling, to just lovely and pretty….

    A happy and wonderful surprise! I really do love it! YAY!


    ---

    I know my writing is not, uh, normal. I get that & that's fine (I write in a slighted edited version of how I think). But I did/do/will love this album and anything more than a cursory scan of my post would have made that clear.

    On the reason for the season of the email pleasin'... I do think pulling positive quotes from a rather "meh" review from Pitchfork is pretty disingenuous. Sorry, but I do.

    Re-read the p4k review, they said Cloud Cult is offering up "building blocks to epic millennial rock", hardly the same thing (a rocket on it's way to the moon and a bunch of scrap metal in my backyard are not the same thing), aaaaaand this was the ever so slight positive bounce back after calling the album full of "overwroughtness".

    Ouch.

    Anyone, like me, who follows up an "epic millennial indie rock" quote like that and finds a 5.4 from some kid at p4k would look back at Cloud Cult and wonder what kinda shenanigans they are up to...

    SHENANIGANS I TELLS YA!!

    But I get it. Pitchfork is king. Positive tag lines from a Pitchfork mention are worth their weight in iTunes sales gold because, as we all know, 99.9% of the people won't follow up on that quote. So, more power to ya! So many bloggers follow Pitchfork's lead that if they seemed to have liked it, maybe blogger #6,882 will like it too!

    It's cool, and it's cool you called me out for calling you out. The circle of bloggerin' life!

    *insert tear-jerker Elton John track here*

    Cheers & good luck! I wish the album well and hopefully, come album-of-the-year time -- my, where does the year go?-- this album will get the love & high-rankings it deserves.
  • That is one of the most confusing things I've read in a while.
    I do agree on the no-context quote being a bit disingenuous, but I always ignore quotes in promo emails anyway. If someone I read has reviewed the band I would have spotted - I've got nothing against Pitchfork but I just don't read it, and nor do I any other general music site - I prefer reading people's personal musings.
  • I don't pay any attention to any of the promo chat until I have decided that I like the music enough to be interested.  They could quote Tom Waits, Eric Cantona and my mum and it wouldn't make a jot of difference.
  • The day that I get told in a promo that that my mum liked it is going to be a very odd day indeed

    also @tsuru I cant open the link you posted as the post Stunt were responding to but there has definitely been some crossed wires there for sure!
  • Just found it amusing & thought I'd share with my bloggerin' peers...

    Though it's a rare day that I actually read PR emails, the only reason I clicked that email was because it was about Cloud Cult, which I like & was still kinda high on. I happen to scan the quotes, just out of vague curiosity as I scrolled. The pitchfork one caught my eye because I did just happen to read that review because, once again, I was curious how they would take it considering how much I loved it, and knew how they didn't like it.

    It was a perfect storm of happen-tos!

    The whole thing just really cracked me up. So.... as I tend to do.... I made a joke about it in my post when I saw the KEXP videos of CC floating around the intertubes! It's how my brain rolls.

    Really surprised at the email I got from Stunt. One, they pulled a disingenuous quote from Pitchfork's review AND they completely mis-read MY review! If I didn't know any better, I'd think they don't really read reviews at all!

    Anywhosaldoosal..... I thought bloggerin' ain't easy? Hell, PRin' ain't even easier!
  • Thanks for the entertainment, Tsuru. : ) That PR person is crazy crazy crazy, and your 'rocket vs scrap metal' analogy is completely on point.

    Also, because I like hating on bad PR emails: "that is your own choice and a subjective one at that" is about the stupidest thing I've read in some time.
  • "Hi, How are you? I came across your blog online and I believe I can give you some music that would suit the style of Cutlure Bully blogspot." Alyn Gawat, Media Manager, http://reesstreetrecords.com
  • "Hi,

    You have either opened the earlier emails that I sent out or they have gone straight to your trash."



    Thanks for letting me know.
  • Tiny follow-up to my little story..... I've not received a reply nor another Stunt Company PR email since I've written her back. Guess I'm off their list. On the plus side, no more Owl City news!
  • "I came across your blog online"



    Umm, yes, that's where I tend to keep it.
  • as long as it doesn't start with "Hi Tina" i'm good. namespellingpetpeeve
  • @toad -- weird, I found your blog via fortune cookie.
  • Somebody sent me on starting 'Hi Jason' the other day.  I was this close to emailing back and asking if they'd like me to forward it to Jason, and if they had an email address he liked to use on weekends.
  • Title: "Unreleased Radiohead song..."

    Body: "Julian [Shah-Tayler] has recorded a tribute... (blah blah blah) ...A version of the unreleased Radiohead soon to be classic: 'Supercollider.'"

    Though in all fairness, this wasn't a PR person... it was sent from the artiste herself. Either way - the email was so misleadingly enjoyable that I couldn't help but smile when opening it.
  • "Glowbug - Awful Scary, Yes, Very"

    Definitely my favourite opening this week.
  • "CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This email and any attachments may be confidential and protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the e-mail or any attachment is prohibited."
  • That kind of stuff basically just makes me stick people in the spam folder.

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