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Well another big thing, I hope nobody misses. This leak hardly reveals anything new about the world and how it operates. What it does reveal is how state dept. view the world. With this, you can quickly learn a lot about who is saying what in the media: those who tries to take the leak as "this is the world" therefore, we should do this and that, more war... these are the toolz. take note. They gonna fuck you over when the time come. unsurprisingly, the usual war mongering dolts and neocons.

second: those who analyze the document as what it is, how state dept. operate, analyze and the implication of their view toward US foreign policy, therefore the world. (now this people you should listen, they know stuff that you don't and probably you can bank your money on their words.)

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http://ipezone.blogspot.com/2010/11/hillary-internet-freedom-clintons.html

Face it: we all have issues. However, it seems Missus Clinton's foibles are more high-profile than those of the rest of us. Here's yet another case in point. Just a few months removed from making a grandiose speech on the virtues of "Internet freedom" [picture above] in the wake of those dastardly Chinese clamping down on Google's violation of Chinese censorship laws, there's now apparently an Americans exception reserved for WikiLeaks. Unless you've been hiding in a cave somewhere between the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan, there has been a media firestorm over the leakage of an interesting set of State Department communications to major international newspapers like the New York Times, The Guardian, and Der Spiegel. Unfortunately, the ol' freedom 'n' democracy shtick is being contextually applied. If it's America's erstwhile rivals, the problem is one of dealing with "government censors." When it comes to the US government being at the receiving end of some "Internet freedom," however, it becomes an "illegal act" according to the secretary of state. Compare:

Hillary "Internet Freedom" Clinton (January 21, 2010): Some countries have erected electronic barriers that prevent their people from accessing portions of the world’s networks. They’ve expunged words, names, and phrases from search engine results. They have violated the privacy of citizens who engage in non-violent political speech. These actions contravene the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, which tells us that all people have the right “to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” With the spread of these restrictive practices, a new information curtain is descending across much of the world. And beyond this partition, viral videos and blog posts are becoming the samizdat of our day.

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God, Please someone put a muzzle over Hilary's mouth.

Did I miss something else? I read a NY Times article all about Hilary's comments regarding the recent leaks. I may have missed it but I don't remember her commenting on the directive to diplomats to also be spies. Where she was the one who sent out the directive.

Am I truly surprised? Fuck No. The Bitch needs to take a big bar of Ivory soap and scrub her mouth out with it.

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Sooner or later the world will find out ...

http://radsoft.net/news/20100908,00.shtml

STOCKHOLM (Radsoft) — The internal affairs division of the Swedish police found that the entire dossier on the Assange case was leaked to the media. The Chancellor of Justice along with the 'IAD' are now going to pursue the matter in an attempt to find out who broke the law.

The Chancellor's office says the police were contacted 28 August by Aftonbladet editor in chief Jan Helin who told them he had access to the complete dossier of the Assange case - something Helin today denies.

'I've never spoken to the police in such a matter. This is totally erroneous. It's infuriating that the Chancellor's office releases such information', insists Helin.

Helin claims one of his reporters made a request for the dossier through the proper channels and the request was granted after the authorities checked to make sure they wouldn't be violating Sweden's secrecy laws.

'We received the documents through the normal channels. We made an application with the police and they decided the documents could be released', insists Helin.

Anna Skarhed of the Chancellor's office doesn't agree. She's ruled that the IA unit should immediately investigate.

'How does a police dossier end up on an editor's desk?' asks Skarhed. 'We need to find that out.'

Skarhed's office is not yet targeting anyone or any agency in particular. 'The suspicion is someone at the police or the prosecutor's office leaked the information', she says.

Most leaks in Sweden are a matter of relatively few details getting out. But in this case Aftonbladet were given access to a complete dossier.

'This points to something very unfortunate', says Skarhed. 'The reason we have secrecy laws is so we can investigate crimes in a secure fashion.'

US Putting Pressure on Sweden

But Assange doesn't stop there - he says his website now has 'two reliable intelligence sources that state that Swedish intelligence was approached last month by the United States and told that Sweden must not be a safe haven for WikiLeaks'.

'The Swedish case has caused delays, significant delays in all of our projects. It's been an enormous disruption. We have upcoming releases relating to financial fraud, the banking industry, and war crimes.'

'An allegation has been reported all around the world', Assange says of the continuing Swedish legal circus. 'It's at present on six million websites. In fact one in twenty websites mentioning the word rape also mentioned my name.'

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Wait, did I read that article correctly?

Assange is complaining and very upset that information regarding the Swedish rape allegations were "Leaked". And then Assange complains that the "Leaks" about him have caused a significant delay in WikiLeaks "Leaking" more classified information.

Seems Julian likes "Leaks" as long as they are not about him?

Damn, Assange has gotten me confused. Now, I gotta take a "Leak", my bladder is acting up.

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Interpol, CIA, whole free world trying to get Assange but they won't be able to.

He's headquarted in the remote region of Pakistan, Waziristan, with Taliban's leader Mullah Omar and Qaeda's Bin Laden.

They're in a safe house, smoking opium, abusing women and plotting their next move to crush the US infidels.

But, hey it's all about freedom of speech. ;-(

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I use to like Julian Assange and thought he and WikiLeaks were doing something good.

Now, I have come to seriously dislike Assange/WikiLeaks. I feel they are doing more harm than good. I hate war and government corruption. But, the fact is those things have been going on since the formation of this country. Sure, we would all like to stop it but that is just an impossible thing to do. Unfortunate as it is. Assange may go down but WikiLeaks will continue to try to destroy the US and cause world chaos. And that sucks.

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Interpol, CIA, whole free world trying to get Assange but they won't be able to.

Don't be stupid. He is somewhere in London and still alive for a reason. Everybody needs somebody and thing to eff US, even UK. And Obama administration isn't exactly hot with tory. What perfect opportunity right? Plus, I think Assange is aware of global politics too,after getting burned in Sweden. he realizes all that "high talk" about press, freedom, bla bla are all bullshit when push come to shove. It's all hard politics.

The faster wikipedia understand this, the better for all their information to have impact. The information release itself can be useful for wikipedia long term survival.

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Ok, I will remove my dunce cap, sort of.

Assange talks out both sides of his ass. He pisses, moans and says it's outrageous that the Swedish govt. and/or press has leaked information about him regarding the rape allegations. Then he has the gall to say those leaks about him were affecting the more impending WikiLeaks leaks of secret cables. What a Fucktard hypocrite.

You mean WikiLeaks not Wikipedia? Wikipedia just recently put out a press release condemning WikiLeaks and said they were divorcing themselves from them.

Anyways, Assange is a double talking Turd. Lock him up and throw away the key. Wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to take him out. Whose side is he fucking on? Looks to me like he's just another terrorist. The only difference is he wears a suit and hides under the guise of a "journalist".

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Wouldn't be the first time somebody tries to take him. Plus, surviving blows from biggest intel agencies in the world makes pretty impressive resume.

As wikileaks gains prominence and proved itself, more information and higher profile leaks will pass through them. At certain point, they will start to function as church confessional booth. True power is knowing those information and intricate structure of power relation.

Political corruption and backroom dealing will be everybody's weakest point. Probably we finally have a tool against war crime, state sanction crime and high treason then.

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This is going to be a major . Somebody should resign. It's breaking international treaty. (It's fairly amazing how she can still act undignified when she get caught breaking law.) But then again, she is so clueless, she probably think there is no such thing as international law that US has signed on. And she can do and say whatever she wants.

When all of a sudden she will be detained or refused entry during critical time, then people wonder what is the cost of incompetency. Does she even know if she steal something in time of high tension, that could be construed as an act of war? (breaking cypher) At the very least host country can now have ground demanding new batch of diplomat. If not asking Hillary straight away, if US is still part of the vienna treaty. (uh, now that would be a hilarious moment when she has to answer that question.)

Hillary Clinton's State Department ordered U.N. diplomats to collect passwords, emails, and biometric data in order to spy on top U.N. officials and others, likely in violation of the Vienna Treaty of 1961 (see Articles 27 and 30; and, believe me, I know: it's just "law," nothing any Serious person believes should constrain our great leaders).

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/12/01/wikileaks?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+salon/greenwald+(Glenn+Greenwald)

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1946 UN treaty

UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon [ Images ] had been informed by the US on Sunday afternoon before the documents had been published, UN spokesperson Farhan Haq said.

Haq also pointed out that a 1946 treaty on 'privileges and immunities' of the UN states that its offices 'shall be immune from search, requisition, confiscation, expropriation and any other form of interference, whether by executive, administrative, judicial or legislative action'.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/wikileaks-fallout-us-defends-spying-on-foreign-diplomats/20101130.htm

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I think this admission of spying on UN will end up pretty hilarious when somebody ask her point blank what is US status on the UN treaty. Specially when she starts demanding UN resolution compliance, treaty, rules. etc Everybody will just flip the middle finger and move on I bet.

UN treaty here

http://untreaty.un.org/cod/avl/ha/cpiun-cpisa/cpiun-cpisa.html

US signature here

http://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=TREATY&mtdsg_no=III-1&chapter=3&lang=en

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I think we agree and probably the rest of the world agrees that she is a reckless, ignorant dolt.

However, as dumb as she is, it may be possible, but I find it hard to believe she issued these spy directives and the UN thing on her own.

This stuff has got to be deeper, much deeper or actually, and more appropriately, higher, much higher.

Remember this: "Under the constitution the President of the US determines US foreign policy. The Secretary Of State carries out the President's foreign policies through the State Dept. and the Foreign Service of the US."

Follow what I'm talking about?

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It's the entire nation. but she represents the nation in world stage, and it is her name on that order. It is also her department. Not that there will be any further action. Incompetency is lavishly rewarded . Everybody needs a clueless dumb blond in the system afterall in case the blame game starts.

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csmonitor is owned by ziocon, so take it with grain of salt, probably jsut an empty threat. But wikileaks better prepares. (tho' an open court in the US would be a gigantic circus, specially in election year.) btw. wikileaks has now becomes a full force in US politics. (just wait until the left and right lobing political bomb via wikileaks. fun fun fun...)

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/1202/WikiLeaks-founder-Julian-Assange-Has-US-already-indicted-him

It is entirely possible that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is already under indictment in the US. Grand juries work in secret, and indictments can be sealed, but there have been hints.

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You're not getting it Bro

The President sets the Foreign policies and also issues directives to the State Department. The State Department executes his policies and directives. Any action or directives the State Department wants to do on their own must be approved by the President first. That's the constitution and how it should work.

Now, maybe Obama was too busy planning his next vacation with Michelle and the kids. And some things fell through the cracks. Or maybe the constitution is just a very old document rather than the law of the land. ???

Assange is under indictment by every country in the world. There is no one who will give him safe harbour, except maybe Pakistan or Iran. The best place for his arrogant ass is Pakistan. He can hide with Fucktard Omar's Taliban. But they better keep a close watch for those drone bombers.

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There are ways of doing things. There are tools to collect information. This ain't it. Look by now, it is fairly obvious Obama entire team is pretty incompetent, so not much to argue there. Is it policy level or implementation? who cares. The fact remain, shit going to hit the fan if somebody brings this up at the UN, retaliate or use this fact in the future. Rest assure everybody will pretend like everything is OK, until it blows up.

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Similarly, the Daily Mail reported in August:

'When they got back they had sexual relations, but there was a problem with the condom - it had split.'She seemed to think that he had done this deliberately but he insisted that it was an accident.’ Whatever her views about the incident, she appeared relaxed and untroubled at the seminar the next day where Assange met Woman B, another pretty blonde, also in her 20s, but younger than Woman A.

***The [second] woman admitted trying to engage her hero in conversation.

Assange seemed pleased to have such an ardent admirer fawning over him and, she said, would look at her ‘now and then’. Eventually he took a closer interest. ***

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/arrest-warrant-sex-crimes-against-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-only-sex-without-condom

What he did not tell her was that the party was being hosted by the woman he had slept with two nights before and whose bed he would probably be sleeping in that night.
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‘The passion and attraction seemed to have disappeared,’ she said.

Most of what then followed has been blacked out in her statement, except for: ‘It felt boring and like an everyday thing.’

One source close to the investigation said the woman had insisted he wear a condom, but the following morning he made love to her without one.

This was the basis for the rape charge. But after the event she seemed unruffled enough to go out to buy food for his breakfast.

And today, a former attorney for Assange confirmed that the charges are for having sex without using a condom, accused the prosecutors of "making it up as they go along", and said that Sweden's justice system is destined to become "the laughingstock of the world" for pursuing the case against Assange.

So Assange might be a cad for sleeping with 2 women within a couple of days, and he might be irresponsible for having sex without a condom and then failing to submit to HIV tests afterwards.

But he has not been accused of rape under any traditional meaning of that term.

When it comes to Assange rape case, the Swedes are making it up as they go along

Apparently having consensual sex in Sweden without a condom is punishable by a term of imprisonment of a minimum of two years for rape. That is the basis for a reinstitution of rape charges against WikiLeaks figurehead Julian Assange that is destined to make Sweden and its justice system the laughing stock of the world and dramatically damage its reputation as a model of modernity.

Sweden’s Public Prosecutor’s Office was embarrassed in August this year when it leaked to the media that it was seeking to arrest Assange for rape, then on the same day withdrew the arrest warrant because in its own words there was “no evidence”. The damage to Assange’s reputation is incalculable. More than three quarters of internet references to his name refer to rape. Now, three months on and three prosecutors later, the Swedes seem to be clear on their basis to proceed. Consensual sex that started out with a condom ended up without one, ergo, the sex was not consensual.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/02/when-it-comes-to-assange-r-pe-case-the-swedes-are-making-it-up-as-they-go-along/

That further evidence hasn’t been confected to make the charges less absurd does Sweden no credit because it has no choice in the matter. The phenomena of social networking through the internet and mobile phones constrains Swedish authorities from augmenting the evidence against Assange because it would look even less credible in the face of tweets by Anna Ardin and SMS texts by Sofia Wilén boasting of their respective conquests after the “crimes”.

In the case of Ardin it is clear that she has thrown a party in Assange’s honour at her flat after the “crime” and tweeted to her followers that she is with the “the world’s coolest smartest people, it’s amazing!”. Go on the internet and see for yourself. That Ardin has sought unsuccessfully to delete these exculpatory tweets from the public record should be a matter of grave concern. That she has published on the internet a guide on how to get revenge on cheating boyfriends ever graver. The exact content of Wilén’s mobile phone texts is not yet known but their bragging and exculpatory character has been confirmed by Swedish prosecutors. Niether Wilén’s nor Ardin’s texts complain of rape.

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So, I would like to state where I think we are at, in this particular juncture, of our discussions. These are my thoughts.

Hilary Clinton is a nincompoop.

0bama administration is somewhat flawed, perhaps due, in part, to Barack and Michelle's extreme obsession with taking vacations.

Julian Assange is a computer hacker and a journalist fraud. He operates with clear deception - wolf in sheeps clothing. He constantly contradicts himself and is an arrogant asshole. He is a wanted man with nowhere to hide except for maybe Pakistan or Iran. Where, quite frankly, he belongs. Drone bomber alert.

WikiLeaks is comprised of mysterious so called professional journalists who hide behind a cyber wall veil. We are supposed to implicity trust them, without knowing their identities or qualifications, to thoroughly analyze extremely global sensitive documents that they obtained illegally from most probably nefarious criminals. And then report to us the truth. Hello, Santa Claus.

Not only is Assange an out of control fraud, he is also a dismal sexual failure in bed with the opposite sex. It has yet to be established if he also swings the other way.

If offered raw chicken by a polite smiling Japanese businessman, kindly tell him to Fuck off.

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you are not suppose to trust any information without verification.

hey I am looking at United Kingdom map. I wonder how long somebody play cat and mouse supported by strong ground crew. northern ireland looks complicated enough. Belfast ?

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Seriously, love Ireland. Use to travel extensively overseas on business. Only been to the south and it was excellent. Beautiful lush green scenery, wonderful people and there is absolutely nothing in this world that can beat a fresh pint of Guinness from the tap.

Don't really know jack about the north, other than some of the political shit.

But hey, just had an early morning thought. Pretty sure Bono's got a huge mansion in the north. Probably fairly secluded, tons of security and the dude is a serious human rights activist. Just might work with extra help from Mr. Hewson's strong ties to the area.

But, then again, *Ass*ange needs to go down, and soon. He's a serious danger to himself and the whole world. The Fucktard is so stupid, he's doesn't even know how to use a condom.

Cut the head off the snake or something like that.

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did you just imply northern ireland is ireland. heh heh.... I don't think the people in the big island next to it is going to like ya.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/complete-transcript-assange-guardian-livechat-and-possibly-one-his-pre-arrest

Yes, we have leaks on the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, a trojan horse trade agreement designed from the very beginning to satisfy big players in the US copyright and patent industries. In fact, it was WikiLeaks that first drew ACTA to the public's attention - with a leak.

The Cable Gate archive has been spread, along with significant material from the US and other countries to over 100,000 people in encrypted form. If something happens to us, the key parts will be released automatically. Further, the Cable Gate archives is in the hands of multiple news organisations. History will win. The world will be elevated to a better place. Will we survive? That depends on you.

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Yay guardian.

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Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans' Real Time Credit Card Activity

"A 10-page Powerpoint presentation (PDF) that security and privacy analyst Christopher Soghoian recently obtained through a Freedom of Information Act Request to the Department of Justice reveals that law enforcement agencies routinely seek and obtain real-time surveillance of credit card transactions. The government's guidelines reveal that this surveillance often occurs with a simple subpoena, thus sidestepping any Fourth Amendment protections."

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The danger of unwarranted concealment

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Ha, Nope Bro the Big Island guys are after you. Check out your post above mine: You say you are looking at a UK map and Northern Ireland (Belfast) looks good. Need I remind you that Northern Ireland is not a part of the UK?

ZING! LOL! Got ya there Bro!!

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Ironic quote of the day, from Kazakhstan, via Wikileaks:

The Ambassador asked if the corruption and infighting are worse now than before in Kazakhstan. Idenov paused, thought, and then replied, “No, not really. It’s business as usual.

They’re confused by the corrupt excesses of capitalism. “If Goldman Sachs executives can make $50 million a year and then run America’s economy in Washington, what’s so different about what we do?’ they ask.”

Too bad we don’t have a category labeled “Irony.”

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/12/wikileak-gs-quote-of-the-day/#more-61001

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US officials deny they are urging technical takedown of WikiLeaks

Spokesman P.J. Crowley says: "The US is trying to track where WikiLeaks is publishing from."

Yeah right. Wouldn't it be far more better to track where WikiLeaks is getting the documents from? But hey, we know that's what Crowley really meant.

*Ass*ange soon to go down and be history. WikiLeaks will soon implode, dissipate and disappear. Will later reappear to exclusively release tabloid style entertainment leaks - Britney Spears, Lady GaGa, Lindsay Lohan, Mel Gibson etc.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/12/3/925247/-Wikileaks:-Weve-seen-this-before

Like Ritter, Assange is a being portrayed as a sexual deviant. Like Ritter, the charges look suspicious.

In both cases, no one denies that the incidents with Assange started out as consensual sexual encounters with adults. Like Ritter, the charges against Assange have already been dropped.

Shortly after the investigation opened, however, chief prosecutor Eva Finné overruled the prosecutor on call the night the report was filed, withdrawing the warrant to arrest Assange and saying "I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape."

The warrant was revived after Assange had already met with police in Sweden.

It's also worth noting that Sweden has not actually charged Assange with a crime. In fact, the "crime" he is being accused of is literally sex without a condom. One of the women went out and got him breakfast after sex.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2010/12/3/124921/700/286#c286

A final word, MLK on moderates:

First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice... Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will.

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All over the map dude, well sort of.

That MLK quote is excellent. Maybe my pea sized brain doesn't comprehend but what is the connection between the MLK quote and *Ass*ange's total lack of sexual prowess and lack of knowing how to use a rubber?

Please explain, it's gonna drive me crazy until I understand.

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"I'd like to call to order this secret conclave of America's media empires. We are here to come up with the next phony baloney crisis to put Americans back where they belong---in dark rooms glued to their televisions, too terrified to skip the commercials."

---The Simpsons

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Count Down to one gigantic class action suit for sure.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/12/3/925294/-The-Wikileaks-Scare-and-the-return-of-McCarthyism-[UPDATED]

Today on Democracy Now!, Amy Goodman reported on federal government threats to punish or blacklist individuals who have even the faintest association with Wikileaks. Accessing the Wikileaks website, linking to documents disclosed by Wikileaks, and commenting about Wikileaks disclosures via internet social media, may have negative consequences, warn government officials and a university officials. Steven Aftergood, a guest on the show, called the government's policy, "Insane."

The policy indicates a resurgence of McCarthyism, a term that dates to the Second Red Scare, when thousands of people were shunned, denied employment and sometimes imprisoned based on allegations of associating with communists, even if the allegations lacked credibility. This time around, it's the "Wikileaks Scare," and the evidence of 'disloyalty' is learning the truth about government activities. Moreover, the government's threats indicate that it is already engaged in wholesale domestic monitoring for the purpose of creating a massive database of blacklisted Americans.

UPDATE: Per Talking Points Memo, the White House Office of Management and Budget sent out a memo to all federal agencies today directing them to bar unauthorized employees from accessing the Wikileaks web site and its leaked diplomatic cables.

Also, earlier today, TPM reported that the Library of Congress, "an internationally respected library and the research arm of Congress, had blocked Wikileaks' web site from its staff computers and visitors' wireless network."

MEMOS THREATEN BLACKLISTING

Government blacklisting threats were cited by Amy Goodman on her show, "Is WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange a Hero? Glenn Greenwald Debates Steven Aftergood of Secrecy News," broadcast today, December 3rd, on Democracy Now.

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Intimidation of College Students

Around the middle of the program, Ms. Goodman interrupted the interview with Greenwald and Aftergood to point out some memos that Democracy Now! has been receiving. They include a memo sent to Columbia University students by the School of International and Public Affairs.

We received a call today from a SIPA alumnus who is working at the State Department. He asked us to pass along the following information to anyone who will be applying for jobs in the federal government, since all would require a background investigation and in some instances a security clearance.

"The documents released during the past few months through Wikileaks are still considered classified documents. He recommends that you DO NOT post links to these documents nor make comments on social media sites such as Facebook or through Twitter. Engaging in these activities would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information, which is part of most positions with the federal government.

"Regards, Office of Career Services."

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Mirror, mirror on the wall ...

In response to the "killing" of Wikileaks.org by the US, countless mirror sites are springing up all over the world. It's impossible to authoritatively catalog them all—too many mirrors, and too fluid of a situation. But here are some active indexes, which appear to be dynamically updating as new mirrors pop up.

• wikileaks.ch

• wikileaks.de

• wikileaks.fi

• wikileaks.nl

• Wikileaks.info

• Anapnea

• etherpad.mozilla.org:9000/wikileaks

• A Google search string

• [[wl-mirror]] at AnonWiki

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/03/wikileaks-blocked-bu.html#comments

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Cablegate

Tor Hidden Service

http://anonymitaet-im-inter.net/wiki/wl-mirror

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/03/wikileaks-online-presence_n_791699.html

Try as they might, the truth will come out in the end. There is something more to all this. Everyone knows that Karzai is corrupt and North Korea is a pain in the butt for the Chinese. There is something very dark that our government doesn't want to come out.

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Of course, their celebrity lawyer Claes Borgström was questioned as to how the women themselves could be essentially contradicting the legal characterisation of Swedish prosecutors; a crime of non-consent by consent. Borgström’s answer is emblematic of how divorced from reality this matter is. “They (the women) are not jurists”. You need a law degree to know whether you have been r-ped or not in Sweden. In the context of such double think, the question of how the Swedish authorities propose to deal with victims who neither saw themselves as such nor acted as such is easily answered: You’re not a Swedish lawyer so you wouldn’t understand anyway. The consent of both women to sex with Assange has been confirmed by prosecutors.

Proposed reforms of Swedish rape laws would introduce a test of whether the unequal power relations between the parties might void the sincerely expressed consent of one party. In this case, presumably, the politically active Ardin, with experience fielding gender equity complaints as a gender equity officer at Uppsala University, had her will suborned by Assange’s celebrity. The prosecutor coming as she does from a prosecution “Development Unit” could achieve this broadening of the law during Assange’s trial so he can be convicted of a crime that didn’t exist at the time he allegedly committed it. She would need to. There is no precedent for it. The Swedes are making it up as they go along.

A great deal more damning evidence is yet to be revealed about what passes for legal process in Sweden, such as Assange’s lawyers having not received a single official document until November 18, 2010 (and then in Swedish language contrary to European Law) and having to learn about the status of investigations through prosecution media announcements but make no mistake: it is not Julian Assange that is on trial here but Sweden and its reputation as a modern and model country with rules of law.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/02/when-it-comes-to-assange-r-pe-case-the-swedes-are-making-it-up-as-they-go-along/

Today, a former attorney for Assange - James D. Catlin - has confirmed that the charges are for having sex without using a condom. He notes that:

The consent of both women to sex with Assange has been confirmed by prosecutors.

He also accuses the prosecutors of "making it up as they go along", and said that Sweden's justice system is destined to become "the laughingstock of the world" for pursuing the case against Assange.

And Assange's current London attorney - Mark Stephens - told AOL news that he doesn't even know what the charges against Assange are, but that they are not rape:

Stephens, told AOL News today that Swedish prosecutors told him that Assange is wanted not for allegations of rape, as previously reported, but for something called "sex by surprise," which he said involves a fine of 5,000 kronor or about $715.

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"We don't even know what 'sex by surprise' even means, and they haven't told us," Stephens said, just hours after Sweden's Supreme Court rejected Assange's bid to prevent an arrest order from being issued against him on allegations of sex crimes.

"Whatever 'sex by surprise' is, it's only a offense in Sweden -- not in the U.K. or the U.S. or even Ibiza," Stephens said. "I feel as if I'm in a surreal Swedish movie being threatened by bizarre trolls. The prosecutor has not asked to see Julian, never asked to interview him, and he hasn't been charged with anything. He's been told he's wanted for questioning, but he doesn't know the nature of the allegations against him."

The strange tale of Assange's brief flings with two Swedish women during a three-day period in mid-August -- and decisions by three different prosecutors to first dismiss rape allegations made by the women and then re-open the case -- has more twists, turns and conspiracy theories than any of [Swedish novelist] Stieg Larsson's best-sellers.

So Assange might be a cad for sleeping with 2 women within a couple of days, and he might be irresponsible for having sex without a condom and then failing to submit to HIV tests afterwards.

But he has not been accused of rape under any traditional meaning of that term.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/12/sex-charges-and-arrest-warrant-against.html

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"Does Interpol normally involve itself in this sort of thing?"

Banana Republic.

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Initial correlative analysis start coming in.

(I am enjoying the nuke & stuff part in the documents. what a bunch of lying assholes.) I can't wait until everybody sticking the entire texts into history common , then we can really see context.

Climate agreement:

The Beijing talks failed to lead to a global deal at Copenhagen. But the US, the world's biggest historical polluter and long isolated as a climate pariah, had something to cling to. The Copenhagen Accord, hammered out in the dying hours but not adopted into the UN process, offered to solve many of the US's problems.

The accord turns the UN's top-down, unanimous approach upside down, with each nation choosing palatable targets for greenhouse gas cuts. It presents a far easier way to bind in China and other rapidly growing countries than the UN process. But the accord cannot guarantee the global greenhouse gas cuts needed to avoid dangerous warming. Furthermore, it threatens to circumvent the UN's negotiations on extending the Kyoto protocol, in which rich nations have binding obligations. Those objections have led many countries – particularly the poorest and most vulnerable – to vehemently oppose the accord.

Getting as many countries as possible to associate themselves with the accord strongly served US interests, by boosting the likelihood it would be officially adopted. A diplomatic offensive was launched. Diplomatic cables flew thick and fast between the end of Copenhagen in December 2009 and late February 2010, when the leaked cables end.

Some countries needed little persuading. The accord promised $30bn (£19bn) in aid for the poorest nations hit by global warming they had not caused. Within two weeks of Copenhagen, the Maldives foreign minister, Ahmed Shaheed, wrote to the US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, expressing eagerness to back it. ...

http://solveclimatenews.com/news/20101203/wikileaks-how-us-manipulated-climate-accord

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/us-basics-copenhagen-accord-tactics

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... the US Army Counterintelligence Centre, in its report on what to do about WikiLeaks:

Wikileaks.org uses trust as a centre of gravity by assuring insiders, leakers, and whistleblowers who pass information to Wikileaks.org personnel or who post information to the Web site that they will remain anonymous ...

"The identification, exposure, or termination of employment of or legal actions against current or former insiders, leakers, or whistleblowers could damage or destroy this center of gravity..."

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From the Guardian:

• If all our emails, however personal, are to become subject to the scrutiny of the government, why shouldn’t all the government’s emails, however sensitive, become subject to the scrutiny of us? If we can’t plot to blow up the Houses of Parliament without their knowledge, why can they and Saudi Arabia plot to blow up Iran without ours?

Allan Baker

Kettering, Northamptonshire

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Dude, just my opinion, but it might be good to throttle back some on this. It's getting nasty. It's just what Assange and WikiLeaks want, public hysyeria and enragement.

Yes, I've shared my views but have tried to also add some sarcasm to it. Which may be good or not.

Personally I think that was a bad move to post those mirror links to the WikiLeaks site. Causes more harm than good.

I'm gonna pull out of these threads, carry on how you feel is ok for you.

Finally, let's not forget that this is a music blogger forum.

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Scared? You can always go back to watching TV. I am still looking for ACTA leak follow up. The way they do things will apply to everybody, specially with this corrupt crew. Might as well pay attention. Hiding under the bed won't make the monster go away.

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PayPal's blog:

PayPal has permanently restricted the account used by WikiLeaks due to a violation of the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy, which states that our payment service cannot be used for any activities that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity. We've notified the account holder of this action.

The rationale seems more convincing (at least from PayPal's perspective) than Amazon's wheedling about rights and redaction. But the timing, at 11:29 p.m. EST on Friday evening, suggests they do know the decision is something to be buried, not boasted of.

Update: In a tweet, Wikileaks says it was the result of government pressure.

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/03/paypal-bans-wikileak.html

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LAHORE – Observing that access to facts and the truth cannot be denied to the citizens of Pakistan, Justice Sheikh Azmat Saeed of the Lahore High Court Friday in limine dismissed a petition which prayed for a ban on the publication, printing and broadcast of the WikiLeaks reports on Pakistan.

The judge said nothing is greater than the truth and what WikiLeaks reports published now, our media had been revealing to the masses far ago. The petition has been filed by one Arif Gondal contending that the WikiLeaks cables about Pakistan and the Islamic states were aimed at creating tensions and souring ties between these countries. He also contends that the reports not only purported to malign Pakistani leadership but also the military as such they merit ban on their publication and broadcast in any manner in Pakistan....

The judge said nothing is greater than the truth and asked if this court or anyone sitting in the courtroom or even the petitioner has been affected by these reports? And the petitioner replied in negative, However, he said that the objective of the same seems an attempt to create instability in the country. He said almost the whole material in the reports is against the Islamic states wherein they have brought about a storm and commotion and are being termed as another 9/11. The judge said on it that the court cannot restrain 178 states in the world from publication of the reports then to what effect and use of placing restrictions on its publication in Pakistan? The judges asked the petitioner that did he believe that Pakistanis do not deserve to hear the truth and facts? The court remarked it was the 21st century when people could not be kept aloof of the truth and in the dark.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/12/4/925444/-Breaking:-Judge-Upholds-Right-of-WikiLeaks-to-Publish-Freely

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Sarkosy? lol. How is that HADOPI/3 strike you are out/attack Iran going zark? No wonder everybody in france wants to kick you out of the office. Yer a whore. another weasle.

(the similarity is amazing. everywhere.)

-hadopi/media law

-3 strike out

-ACTA

-attack iran

-more national debt/more war

must be zionist thing or something.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/04/wikileaks-site-swiss-host-switch

WikiLeaks site's Swiss host dismisses pressure to take it offline

Swiss host Switch says there is 'no reason' why WikiLeaks should be forced off internet, despite French and US demands

WikiLeaks has been fighting to stay online since releasing a cache of sensitive diplomatic cables to the Guardian and four other international media organisations. Amazon, the world's largest online retailer, dropped the site from its servers on Thursday after being contacted by staff of Joe Lieberman, chairman of the US Senate's homeland security committee.

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"Scared"? "Hiding under the bed?"

Fuck No! I am totally "meni vituiksi" and can't take anything more. And I Refuse to succomb to the hysteria and chaos that Assange wants. I'm not an overly religious man, but who knows, maybe Assange is the Anti Christ.

I don't always agree with you Dude but I do like you. Unfortunately I was sucked in to this stuff and it's worthless. Obviously you can keep posting this stuff but I strongly doubt it is being read much. Remember, it's called Elbows Music Bloggers Forum for a reason.

And btw, I don't have a bed to hide under, I'm a 50 yr. old loser who sleeps on a fucking couch.

Good luck Bro! Over and out.

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longer global mirror list.

http://cryptome.org/0003/wikileaks-wikiing.htm

(also, the file they are trying to kill is only 2MB in size. Not exactly 2GB of bluray rip. rapidshare, depositefile, etc. you can even download it using tor via public storage. A copy of entire old site is only 11MB in size. )

by now, the file proliferation is complete. It's everywhere.

Site mirror download:(Post more just in case most go down)

http://download.mirrorleaks.org/

http://uaqv.com/f/wl_mirror_04_12_10_14_07.7z

http://www.2shared.com/file/amLAmb2s/WikiLeaksFullMirror.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/434754420/WikiLeaksFullMirror.rar

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S15Q48C2

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/8nhgagtgl

http://hotfile.com/dl/86804664/d63d01e/WikiLeaksFullMirror.rar.html

http://www.zshare.net/download/8346446151d2f35e/

http://uploading.com/files/72a8aa1e/WikiLeaksFullMirror.rar/

http://www.multiupload.com/MBDETCYQFR

http://demo.ovh.net/fr/78bb769e2d6c8f296b99b1bd395cc7cb/ (OK DEC4, 0910AM)

http://www.mirorii.com/fichier/68/357302/wl_03-12-2010-7z.html (OK DEC4, 0909AM)

http://www.4shared.com/dir/ArnGO6DP/wikileaks.html (OK DEC4, 0908AM)

http://wikimirror.opperschaap.net/www.wikileaks.nl.tgz

http://www.euronet.nl/users/wesleys/www.wikileaks.nl.tgz

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WikiLeaks Starts Mass Mirroring Effort on Saturday December 04, @07:01PM

Posted by timothy on Saturday December 04, @07:01PM

from the mirror-mirror-on-the-net dept.

ensorshiA beautiful mind writes "WikiLeaks is asking for hosting space on Unix-based servers. The replication is implemented by a rsync+ssh based push that copies static files to a known path, authenticated via the private half of this public key. The complete website is a few GB in size, making it feasible to replicate on a large scale. The mirror list will be published when the number of independent mirrors reaches 50." Note: wikileaks.ch seems to be down for the moment, but eventually the above links may require that instead of 213.251.145.96. See also this WikiLeaks address finder. And for even more news, try this Twitter search.

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Posted by: Merz-Nakymaton Mies
Good luck Bro! Over and out.

cya in a bit

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Re:Make it static. (Score:4, Insightful)

by copponex (13876) on Saturday December 04, @07:41PM (#34446858) Homepage

Assange has done more for Democracy, as in the right of people to direct the actions of their government, than the entire Western world has done since WWII. That's why the United States government is so pissed off: it despises the right of people to know what their government is up to with their tax dollars. It didn't want Pakistanis to know of their government's complicity in the drone strikes. It didn't want to admit that the puppet government in Afghanistan was riddled with corruption, even though the State Department has been aware of this fact since the beginning. Just like it didn't want it getting out that we have been systematically destroying democratic institutions, from Iran to Vietnam to Argentina to Palestine, because reality might upset some of it's electorate.

Sure, Assange is kind of a douchebag. You don't think Patrick Henry was? Churchill? However, the marketing ploy of providing this narrative and stringing along the releases has kept this in the news far longer than the previous leaks. It's unfortunate that the mass media, which is owned by corporations, has no self-interest in the truth anymore. But the last hole that can be exploited is the desire to keep their ratings up, and he has done well to exploit this weakness in the system.

If COINTEL PRO had been leaked in the same dramatic fashion, perhaps more people would remember it. The fourth estate is broken. It's going to take soap opera narratives with entertainment value targeted at the masses in order to fix it, which is a hell of a lot better than another war.

The stage is now set to hopefully expose Bank of America or some other major institution for fraud and corruption. Personally, Assange is the only douchebag I would trust with that information. Everyone else in the media are compromised. They are fools, cowards, and intellectual prostitutes [constitution.org].

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Mole in Germany's FDP Party Comes Forward

The secret is out. The informant, who shared information about negotiations to form Germany's current government coalition with the US ambassador in Berlin, has disclosed his identity to the Free Democratic Party. An FDP spokesman claims there is no evidence he broke the law or passed on any classified material.

Germany's business-friendly Free Democratic Party has identified the top-level national party employee responsible for passing secret information on to US diplomats during the negotiations to form the current German government in 2009. A worker at the party's headquarters who was chief of staff to the FDP chairman, German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, came forward and admitted to being the source, an FDP party spokesperson said. The news came after party officials had questioned workers about the issue.

A report in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper stated that the person in question is Helmut M., Westerwelle's chief of staff, who was also the head of international relations for the national party. The 42-year-old has been relieved of his current duties, but not fired.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,732579,00.html

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Currently only 842 cables have been released, out of ~250,000.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/12/4/925635/-Screw-PayPal-(and-Lieberman!)I-just-donated-to-WikiLeaks.

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It's not broken yet. They are running around and getting angry at everybody pointlessly. so at least we know wikileaks ecryption system hasn't been compromised.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/who-will-be-first-decrypt-wikileaks-insurance-file#comments

An "insurance" file has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks site by tens of thousand of supporters, the newspaper reported, meant to trigger a deluge of national and commercial secrets if Assange's activites are curtailed.

Computer experts interviewed by the newspaper said it was unlikely that the U.S. could defeat the encryption in the files. The Sunday Times reported that the U.S. Defense Department said it was aware of the insurance file, which has been available for download since July.

The insurance file seems meant as a threat to governments that would attempt to stop Assange from releasing even more documents — or at least to ensure that the material could be released in the event that WikiLeaks is driven offline or Assange is arrested.

And some more from German website dnews.de, google translated:

These documents should include names of spies, informers, terrorists and dissidents, as well as many other "explosive information". The difference from the published documents at the beginning of this week is that this information has not been edited by English newspaper editors.

As the Dutch daily newspaper De Telegraaf writes, documents bomb had informed Interpol about the threat. The malicious file is 1.4 GB in size and is called insurance.aes256. Any Internet users can now download the file but not read, because it is the most powerful encryption program AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) with secured. The AES is a stronger encryption program, which the U.S. authorities use it as says the Telegraaf. The key is to then give if Julian Assange had been arrested.