I know many similar posts have gone up throughout the years, but I feel as if they're all dead by now.
I have decided to set up a working blog roll for a couple reasons, including the increased Google page rank/search traffic and promoting other sites (though I don't expect blogroll referrals are a good source of traffic). Seeing that this elbo.ws forum is something of a music blogger community and we all tend to support each other, I think it'll be my first and only stop as I develop my blogroll.
If you currently operate a blogroll and would like to exchange links, speak up!
commenting on blogs usually doesn't work for google, actually. most blogs automatically insert "nofollow" attributes to links in comments, so they don't pass any google juice. some don't, but those are few and far between.
Thanks Bryon, it's actually the second time in a week that we've hit #1 -- though it just hit it's "3 day limit". Also got one at #9 currently. Amazing source of traffic flow!
Seanbuzz - and some might just have no idea whether or not they have any nofollow stuff at all. Personally I am not even close to web-literate enough to know whether I do or not, whether I should change it or not, or how to change it if I decided I wanted to.
"Congrats on getting #1 on hype btw. That track is amazing."
"Thanks Bryon, it's actually the second time in a week that we've hit #1 -- though it just hit it's "3 day limit". Also got one at #9 currently. Amazing source of traffic flow!"
Sad, disillusioned, confused, disappointed, embarrassed, wrong goals, broken ideals, missing what's important - the writing, finding/exposing new emerging bands, the music, helping to develop your local music scene, instead aggregators, aggregators, aggregators, traffic, #1 on hypem Damn, fuck all....
I will say after reading that Wiki, I am personally still somewhat confused myself. I am not very web-literate myself. Maybe the 'Grinder can explain it to us in more layman terms.....
Hawkmoon, I'd like to think we have pretty good content, particularly in comparison to the majority of blogs out there that simply post links to songs.
That said, to each their own. I myself will admit that I particularly enjoy watching my website grow, and aggregation has been instrumental in that growth. For the most part, I am trying to transition the writing to my contributors so that I can focus on broadening our reader base. I don't quite see the point of exposing an up-and-coming band to an audience of 30. Now, obviously you and I have different approaches, but Indie Shuffle's goal is not to write about the most popular thing of the day in hopes of climbing an aggregator rank (we'd call it Pop Shuffle or Shitty-Remix Shuffle if that were the case). If a track happens to hit #1 on Hypem, that's awesome, and I feel as if I've helped bring exposure to a group.
Regardless, the bottom line is that we're writing to share music what we enjoy. Therefore, sir, I respectfully disagree with your high-and-mighty put-downs. The spirit in me just can't sit back and simply write pretty prose--I want people to see it. I'd like to end this with a "fuck you," but that just wouldn't be nice. So here's to people having different approaches. Cheers!
I am going to link up. (but posting on recent indie rock has been sparse. I'll do it first opportunity.)
consider opening a "page" basically either on going big project or collection of your post in one page. That will enhance your site stickiness. aside from obvious thing like link between posts. They work and fun to do.
rather than passive aggressively telling him to fuck off, take a moment to see that he's just pointing out the absurdity of posting an mp3 and patting yourself on the back because people want to download the free mp3
no one's making a judgment call on quality of content that is or isn't accompanying the free jamz
cb chris, there's plenty of truth to that, but at the same time many of those coming for the "free mp3" end up looking around, listening to more music, adding on twitter, following on RSS feed, commenting, and even contributing. Now, while a good half of the hypem visitors end up browsing the website, I'd say it's a sparse few that get more in-depth. Still, I'd take the #1 rank on hypem or a similar blog aggregator any day. It's a great way increase a reader base, especially for a new website like mine.
p.s., it's hard to not be passive aggressive when you're writing in a forum on a computer screen.
p.p.s., I do believe that I interpret what hawkmoon said as being a "judgment call" on my interest in focusing on "the writing, finding/exposing new emerging bands, the music, helping to develop your local music scene" etc. I'd like to think that I'm balancing his approach and my website's publicity.
"For the most part, I am trying to transition the writing to my contributors so that I can focus on broadening our reader base."
Chris, I like you, I respect you, and I think you write a fine music website. But I have been in an awful lot of corporate clusterfuck meetings in my time and I haven't heard many sentences which would score full marks at bullshit bingo all on their own, but that one really does do very well indeed.
For the most part I am working on broadening the aperture of my sphincter so I can park more horse buns up there on your average weekend evening. Good luck kids, and remember, you're all special to Santy Claus.
"For the most part, I am trying to transition the writing to my contributors so that I can focus on broadening our reader base."
SongbyToad, that wasn't Chris, it was me, and I'll stick by it as being a goal of mine. Working a full-time job doesn't allow as much time for my website as I would obviously enjoy. When I do have time, I am focused on editing and posting submissions, tweaking the website, expanding its capabilities, and ultimately, publicizing it. If I were also responsible for generating the majority of the content going forward, I wouldn't have much time to differentiate my website (which you have genuinely done a good job of), share it, and work on a "strategic direction", so to speak. Thus, I am not bullshitting when I say I am attempting to "transition the writing to my contributors." Take it as complete and utter bollocks, if you will, but I'll stand by it for now.
telling someone 'I'd like to end this with a fuck you, but that just wouldn't be nice' is pretty much still telling them 'fuck you'... c'mon now
the only thing i want to transfer onto my contributors is the burden of maintaining the site so that i can use my time to capture all that sweet, sweet music-blogger poontang that's out there. i remind them of this every day, and they keep telling me i'm crazy... but i'll show them who's crazy when i bag the only babe in the world who is attracted to a dude whose goals in life include sitting at a computer all day posting music videos while making dick and fart jokes online with his friends. Someday...
Sorry indieshuffle, just taking the piss out the language you were using, that's all, no need to pay attention. You don't hear that kind of vocabulary outside of meetings over here, that's all. Really bad meetings too. Meetings where people are trying really hard to look clever and professional and they can't do it by having anything intelligent to say so they do it by slathering their banalities in corporate meetingspeak. I find it really hard to resist my general inclination to be snide in such meetings unfortunately, which is why I no longer work for a large company.