Apple Vs. Google: Oh, It's On!
  • I think android already has playstation emu. (not sure)

    but the Nexus is going to be screaming fast with snapdragon. It's the fastest in the market. Much faster than iPhone.



    first smartphone that has PSP emulator...win it all... (that would be a sight to behold. a PSP emulator on a phone.)
  • is Sony making a psp smartphone? if not, they should be.
  • I don't see how Sony aren't making some truly awesome phone hybrids that throw in walkman, PSP, cybershot and a phone into one device. They have a very good product for each individually, but so far their software has been sh*t (since the days of minidiscs).

    Please, please, please Sony - live up to what you could be.
  • Sony have some of the best product designers by miles and some of the most stupid marketing monkeys by miles.  It's like they are deliberately trying to handicap themselves with hilariously stupid strategy ruining some incredibly clever products.
  • Weird that Google/Nexus decided to give the initial exclusive to T-Mobile.
  • Google is pushing  ala carte sale of hardware, carrier, service...



    all device is "unlocked"!



    I think if this work will change the entire wireless industry



    Interview



    http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/the-engadget-interview-erick-tseng-senior-product-manager-of-a/
  • It's only unlocked if you want to pay $529 for it. I have T-Mobile and still have to pay $379 if I want one. Also convenient that unlocked or not, it won't work on AT&T.

    Sounds like business as usual to me.
  • business as usual. yessirree.
  • Lots of Android netbooks/smartbooks/mini-tablets/etc will be coming your way soon. Makes sense! I think Apple should've made a iNetbook, a mini-laptop running the iPhone OS for like $300 or $400...
  • but hey... Apple's tablet with have a webcam - http://gizmodo.com/5445334/is-apple-going-to-launch-a-tablet-with-a-webcam - I'm thinking they will be pushing video phone capabilities on their tablet?


  • THE NEW IPAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!



  • iPad... what a mess of a device.
  • Yikes, did someone just link to a Mad TV sketch? What's this forum coming to?!

    Curious Tsuru, why is it a 'mess'?
  • the big one.. no multitasking. none.
    then..
    typing? on your lap? on the table? it's not a flat back so it wobbles.
    doesn't play nice with peripherals except, of course, their keyboard and kickstand (see a compaq tablet from a few years back).
    no SD slot, USB port, or HDMI out
    less dpi than a kindle or an android phone
    relatively heavy at 1.5lbs, remember this is a holding device, not a sit on your lap or table device
    needs wifi unless you pony up the moneys
    to big for your pocket, need a bag... if I have a bag, might as well have a laptop (or if your into netbooks or smartbook, go there).
    but really? no multitasking??? My palm pre can multitask! I can do pandora, a twitter app, and hop on Feeds... this can't?

    Apple's 3rd failure in recent years. Apple TV, the Airbook thing, and now this.

    But... go to gizmodo, there's plenty more to hate in the comments! Sorry... they blew this. The tablet (any tablet) fails because it serves no one! If you want a portable internet communication device that places music & games & stuff, get a smartphone. If you want to work and compute and what not, you have a laptop. If there's a missing link, a tablet is not it (personally, I think an android type "smartbook" will be better)
  • oh.

    and no flash? so no hulu, et al? =P


    what a hot mess, eh??
  • iPad is just a reaallly big iPhone . It doesn't offer anything interesting. iBook is lame.  Apple's attempt to introduce iwork is kinda weak too.  (cloud computing base productivity app.) not ganna happen. They are gunning straight into Google's gold pot. Google will go into battle mode for sure.



    No GPS, no camera, no SD slot, no USB 3.0, no HDMI out......... I mean seriously apple. This isn't the 80's anymore where one can force proprietary slots.  Acer will eat ya alive at $399.



    PS. the screen is made out of glass people. You drop that sucker, you'll be $600 bucks in the hole.
  • but it's sexy looking.... well, except the giant bevel.
  • Boing-boing is brutal... lol 











    serafth.jpgFunnydude Peter Serafinowicz has what the kids on YouTube like to call "a response video" to today's iPad launch news. Honestly, when I was sitting in the crowd in San Francisco this morning and saw these iPad videos for the first time, I immediately thought of Peter's funny Apple parody ads. This one does not disappoint. Oh alright: it, too, lacks a camera.



  • it's not perfect, but no way will it be a failure on the level of apple tv.

    you have to compare it to a kindle/nook to really get an idea of how it will do. comparing it to a netbook/laptop is kind of pointless. compare it to a kindle (at the same price, $499) and i'm not sure why anyone would pick that over this. the iPad will be using epub instead of amazon's locked format and will include iWork, multitouch screen, safari, app store, video, mp3, bluetooth and wifi in addition to 3G, etc. again, consumer looking for an e-reader will buy a kindle over an ipad why?

    no flash is worse news for adobe than it is for apple, especially given the development on html5.
  • I guess we'll see how the world will react. I for one am skeptic. But Apple pulled incredible product stunt before. so ...
  • hey, it could be a flop. wouldn't be the first time. but one thing we can all agree on is that apple really knows how to market to their base.
  • Honestly, ebook readers and the ipad are two completely different animals. Kindle is a pure reader, that's it, e-ink is perfect for reading a book. The ipad is a tablet and, in my opinion, competes against netbooks & other tablets.

  • This article documents a current event. Information may change rapidly as the event progresses.

    This article is about Apple's allegedly portable device iPad. For other uses, see iPad (disambiguation). For the handheld digital music device, see iPod. For the gadget that looks like something Jon King would flash during a CNN election broadcast, see iPad(2).


    The iPad (new)iPad was a prototype for a feminine hygiene product that purported to digitize a woman's menstruation cycle and store it on a password-protected Web server.[1] In the trademark application submitted by the inventor, Larry Bobson, the iPad was described as a "a light-weight, leak-proof device that, for the first time, will allow women to perform the acrobatics illustrated in television ads for tampons and sanitary napkins, rather than just aspire to them. No longer will women feel frustrated watching commercial actresses leap over fire hydrants, attempt gymnastics routines, and randomly flail their legs around to illustrate the point that their menstrual protection doesn't leak. With iPad, a woman's cycle continues as normal, it just doesn't happen down there."[2]


    Bobson, who claims the iPad as his only invention, became embroiled in controversy over the device when early testers reported quitting their jobs, breaking up with their significant others and sending angry texts to friends in the days surrounding the "upload period."[3] Testers also reported finding Bobson creepy.[4] At an emotional press conference in 2001, Bobson responded to a growing chorus of skeptics, who were demanding more disclosure about the device, by saying he couldn't "be expected to invent something that would prevent women from being women."[5] Though the FDA was more than happy to approve the device without knowing anything about it except its name, which a spokesperson reportedly called "catchy,"[6] a Bush Administration official blocked the passage of the device in 2002, saying it was "1984-ish" and "sound[ed] a hell of a lot like pro-choice to me."[7]


    Bobson retired in 2009 at the age of 27 when Apple Computer, Inc. bought the rights to the name iPad for an undisclosed six-figure sum.[8] See iPad(2).


     


    http://www.theawl.com/2010/01/the-wikipedia-entry-for-the-ipad-until-today-by-liz-colville

  • @tsuru the problem is the kindle is in the same price range, so ultimately a lack of features is going to work against instead of for. you can make a valid argument that the kindle is a 'pure reader', but when it comes down to spending $$$ and a consumer is looking at a 16gb iPad with wifi & bluetooth sitting next to a 4gb kindle dx for the same price, they're going to wonder why they'd pay the same price for something with 1/10th the features.
  • got my wife a kindle for like $250... free wireless to grab new books, she's already read dozens of books, and it weighs nothing and is pretty compact, but the "pages" are pretty standard. She also has a laptop and just bought a smartphone tonight (after borrowing mine a few times). She LOVES her kindle. The eInk she can read for hours without burning her eyeballs out. She's at work sees a book she wants, buys it and when she gets home it's on her kindle (or preview it on the kindle then purchase it). She'll be able to do the same on her smartphone when we are out and about. All she wants to do with her kindle is read. It's eInk, you know?

    I don't know, I just think the aren't in the same market. Sure, some people may think about going to an iPad as their book reader, but if they do that, why not a smartphone, netbook, or laptop? That are cheaper or about the same price and have tons more they can do or are a lot more portable?

    But you know, book people are book people.... different genes! Different experience... just different. Kindle's getting apps soon, I think the crossword folks will love it. But again, just different people.
  • i really don't think it'll be a big flop. i see most folks going for the ipad over the kindle if they're looking for an ereader. like you said, "book people" are "book people." and from my perspective, book people like reading actual books — not ebooks (i hate ebooks, even on the kindle). i get the appeal of the kindle, but i do think most folks will follow sean's logic. if the price is comparable, they'll go for the thing that looks nicer and has more functionality (even if it is underwhelming compared to what folks were hoping for).

    don't know if it'll be a huge success though. my thought it that it'll go through a couple of iterations before they get it exactly where they want it. just remember, the first gen ipod was far from realizing the potential it showed. then it started to really shine a couple of generations later, even though the improvements were insanely huge (i'm talking pre-video, of course).
  • Once the hype dies down a bit on this, I really don't see it having mass sales anywhere near that of the iPod/iPhone.
    The simple fact that it doesn't fit in your pocket, and yet barely does any more than most smart phones makes it a little redundant in my opinion. Yeah it would be great to have one of these lying around the house for quick look-ups of anything on the net and a remote etc, like I use my iPhone for now, but I certainly don't feel I need one. Also, hdmi or usb are massive issues. I weasn't expecting SD expansion as that is a great way for Apple to push upgrades however annoying that is, but no useful connectivity without add-ons - useless!

    I would love somthing that I could fold up and fit in my pocket that is just a light e-ink display and a web browser. Basically a Kindle/Nook but pocketable would be perfect. Colour would be nice, but pocketable is what I'm after. Someone invent one for cheap please.
  • I think that in the long run this will be a successful product, although not in the same way most people would think. 



    Basically, this is a toe dipped in a very ill-defined market, and will give Apple a presence in what *may* turn out to be a new part of the computing landscape.  It will give them far more detailed market information than any kind of research or paper-based speculation will ever give you, whilst still maintaining their aura of technological leadership.



    It's not particularly about this product, it's about the next one, and having this product on the market will give them a massive edge over their competitors when it comes to finding a successful solution in this space (assuming there is one).  The first iPods were terrible (awful battery life, far too big, not enough storage) but the key wasn't the initial embodiment, it was what they did with the concept in the long term.
  • If I was in the market for a laptop alternative... something small, light, cheap, and (especially because I've got a smart phone and I really like the idea) app-based, something I can thrown in my bag, take anywhere, the park, coffee shop, anywhere, to go online, or blog, or play with photo, or write, I would buy a small, "closable" (for protection) multitaskable (I really can't emphasize how bad it is the iPad doesn't multitask), device with a keyboard, that is quick and has a tiiiiny little footprint (i.e. app-based).

    Something like the Lenovo Skylight... but running an OS that you already have on your phone that you can tie into your carrier plan... like webOS or android through sprint or whatever.

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    I don't think the "ebook" market is big compared to the "cheap & more mobile alternative to a big laptop" market. Go into any coffee shop, people got their laptops on, with the headphones plugged in, doing stuff on facebook, while writing a paper & checking emails... The iPad can't do all of that. And even if it could? It would do it very awkwardly... Just my thoughts.

    I think the iPad will quietly go away. Screw tablets... Why didn't Apple throw the new OS in a small version of the Airbook??? I think Jobs has always wanted a tablet, and I think that drive may have got the best of him.
  • Just saw this tweet from a photographer friend of mine (aka, not a blogger geek or tech nerd like us), "The iPad looks like an oversized (and probably useless) iPod, and for the price of $500 (or more) I'd rather buy laptop."

    Granted it's just one person, one tweet, but I think that's the mentality. It competes, as tablets always have, with laptops & netbooks.
  • The iPad sounds like what the Kennedys would call an iPod
  • I think that's *a* mentality, but not the mentality being targeted in the first place. I guarantee you there is a reasonably sized market slice out there that want an intermediate device that stands between their iPhone and their laptop. People that never really liked watching movies on a tiny 2.5 inch screen, for example. I'd imagine Apple see the iPad in much the same way they see the iPod or the iPod touch or the iPhone - it's a 'gateway drug' to their other products. Not to go all Star Trek on everyone, but in the future I'm fairly certain that personal computing devices are likely to look more like a Kindle/iPad than a netbook.

    But ultimately I see this as a good thing because it's already forced Amazon to adjust their publishing rates. Competition in the marketplace is a good thing.
  • I'm with you... it's DEFINITELY a good thing, no matter. And how it does will steer alot of future developments as people look to apple for direction.

    *by the way, love these fun convos!!!*

    But.... for the movie thing, got to get a kickstand (something else to care around!). You gonna sit there and hold that thing up for 2 hours? Nah, just plop a laptop on yer belly/airplane tray/table at the coffee shop, sit back and enjoy AND check yer email/twitter/facebook during the boring dialogue parts!

    lol.

    ;)
  • - the most important thing they announced is that it's unlocked, and the contract-free $15/$30 data plan. this means they got ATT to knuckle under, in a big way - if we extrapolate this concept out to the rest of their products and out a couple of years (+VoIP and increased wifi coverage) then the future starts looking pretty awesome, especially for those who hate the current cell phone + data price structure.

    - for big changes like this, apple always releases the consumer-level version first to test the waters. I'm not the target market for this, and I'm sure a lot of you aren't as well. But the people who are - the people who don't need to own a laptop, but love their iphones, and most importantly, don't view this 'as compared to an asus netbook' - will buy it in droves, driving down the price of the display until we get $1000 flip-touch macbooks in 6-12 months. that's when i'll be thrilled.

    - i think the boingboing link right before the funnyordie video was pretty much on the mark: "The proposed formula has that faintly absurd but strangely convincing Cupertino formula: ask why most consumers buy them, then aim at that restricted set of needs without much regard to what tech fans consider important." I'd add that it also attempts the iphone/ipod trick - focus on design and usability (in this case, the familiar iphone functionality) to the point that people no longer compare it to hp/asus/htc/microsoft's uglier/clunkier versions..

    - this could sell a fraction of what the ipod and iphone sold and still be a runaway success, by anyone else's standards. it's following not one but two gamechangers with sales so massive that saying 'it won't sell as much as..' is pretty much meaningless.
  • - the most important thing they announced is that it's unlocked, and the contract-free $15/$30 data plan. this means they got ATT to knuckle under, in a big way - if we extrapolate this concept out to the rest of their products and out a couple of years (+VoIP and increased wifi coverage) then the future starts looking pretty awesome, especially for those who hate the current cell phone + data price structure.


    The unlocked thing is big, though I'm not sure how much AT&T knuckled under since it's still dependent on a SIM card, isn't it?
  • cheap portable computing platform with multi-touch AND decent real estate??? the creative apps that are coming down the pike for this device are going to be mind-blowing.
  • Sorry, now I am convince. This device is dangerous to safety of personal information over the long run.  I only had vague feeling before. But this is worst than window Vista, ATT spying, and Kindle shutting down book.  This is not even at the level of iPhone.  (Nobody does general computing over iPhone, and it has very weak cloud. But a tablet computing?)  It's combination of all worst aspects in them.





    DRM attached to SIM card, attached to browser cookie, attached to IP  attached to information consumption pattern and credit card? ATT/apple/everybody has the right to spy  ....AND log your location to nearest wireless tower?  NO.



    It is not even possible using this device to do temporary anonymizer. You can only download software with apple permission. chinese government or homeland security decide to log, the rest of your life all airport will have picture of your face.  Cat Steven style. You can't create anonymity with this device at all.



    Hey, I say really loud and stupid stuff online. I need healthy doze of paranoia.



    My conclusion, avoid this device at all cost. Don't even type anything into the screen. 
  • oh man... Privacy is long dead!

    As for this, it may have been said already, but:

    Take this...

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    lol!
  • Again, the creative apps that are going to come down the pike for this will blow your mind. If you are concerned about privacy, well then go buy the unabomber cabin and get an acre or two of land up in Montana.
  • The best thing about being worried about privacy on your computer/phone/tablet is that it's so easy (with a little bit of technical knowledge) to see exactly what's being sent, and to whom. Bits don't lie, if you care enough to track them down. The only reason to be paranoid is if you *want* to be..
  • Speaking of apps.....

    What are some of you guys favourites (regardless of phone)?
  • WebOS getting flash & video! YAY! hang in there WebOS! I <3 you!
  • Posted by: bondThe best thing about being worried about privacy on your computer/phone/tablet is that it's so easy (with a little bit of technical knowledge) to see exactly what's being sent, and to whom. Bits don't lie, if you care enough to track them down. The only reason to be paranoid is if you *want* to be..

     


    Google Deducing Wireless Location Data on Friday January 29, @11:21PM




      "When it comes to knowing where wireless users are, the carriers have had a lock on the data. But a patent application shows that Google is trying to deduce the information based on packet headers and estimated transmission rates. This would let it walk right around carriers and become another source of location data to advertisers."

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  • US Patent 7181472 - Method and system for synchronizing identity information


    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7181472.html



    An identity system and method that stores identity information related to different principals and stores the identities on different or disparate systems such that the different systems can use the identities. A synchronization process synchronizes identity information and rules based on identity information between a primary computer system and a disparate secondary computer system. Accordingly, the secondary computer system has a representative database of identity information following receipt of the converted information, wherein the representative database is representative of a primary database of identity information stored on the primary computer system. In order to synchronize a conversion may take place. The conversion process may be performed by a dedicated process designed for the secondary system. Alternatively, the conversion is performed by a generalized process using mapping tables designed to convert identity information into multiple different formats.
  • Squashed. If you are online, your privacy is long gone. Time Warner, Sprint, & my work know 99.9% of everything & everywhere I go online (the balance is at airports, hotels, coffee shops, etc). Sprint also knows WHERE I am right now. Google knows what I'm searching for AND knows every single one of my emails. Facebook knows tons of info about me from my raw data to my status update key repeating terms & trends. Amazon (and a bunch of other stores) have my shopping history & my credit card info. Hell, Justice, where I bought a Webkinz for my youngest for xmas, even knows my phone number now (not really, I didn't give it to them, but they DID swipe my credit card)!

    My point is.... if you are part of this e-lectronical age, privacy is dead. Long dead. Running Chrome in "invisible mode" is hardly "invisible" except maybe to your girlfriend who can't see all the porn sites you go to.

    In fact, I'd say unless you are in a secret cabin with no electricity & an assumed name in the Northwest Territory or something, your privacy has been dead for decades. If you are part of society, it used to be just one private detective's day of following you & rifling through your garbage to get all the info you needed, now, it's some online detective work (and garbage rifling, that never goes away).

    It used to bother me, but I guess it's just inevitable, you know? We are becoming ONE WORLD, just like in Futurama, a pretty Earth on a flag, though I doubt you and I will see it happen. As long as we have freedoms, of speech, of doing pretty much what we want as long as it doesn't hurt others, etc, etc, I think it will be okay.

    Anyways... my 2 cents (maybe less) on privacy... Now, I've got some porn to catch up on!!!

    lol!
  • not me. (this account is pretty compromised, but I don't have anything important to say with this. But for other use, I still need total anonymity)



    I cherished the fact that google can't get their ad right on me most of the time.

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