Apple Vs. Google: Oh, It's On!
  • haha! Friend of mine freaked out on her 37th birthday when facebook's ads were all about turning 37.....
  • Google doesn't like the iPad? Gee, what a surprise! ;)
  • i'm with jobs on google. their mantra is bullshit.
  • ahahahahahahaaa......



    Acer has no plans for iPad-like product, says Acer Taiwan president





    cer will focus on pushing ultra-thin notebooks for 2010 and currently has no plans to jump on the bandwagon to launch a hardware device similar to Apple's new iPad, according to Acer Taiwan president Scott Lin.



    Lin pointed out that designing an iPad-like device would not pose any technical challenges for Acer, but said such a product does not fit into Acer's business model.



    Apple is able to support the iPad through its iTunes ecosystem, while few other makers, including Acer, have comparable experience in operating an online store, Lin noted.



    Historically, closed platforms are typically limited in terms of scale and are confined to niche markets. Apple has built is business out of carving its own niche, which means that while Apple could see success with devices like the iPad, other players are unlikely to be able to replicate its result simply by copying, Lin noted.



    However, Lin said he believes the iPad is unlikely to impact the notebook/netbook markets as the two products target completely different consumer groups.



    For 2010, Acer expects its large-size traditional notebooks to account for 50-60% of total notebook shipments with netbook at around 20% and ultra-thin notebooks about 20-30%. Acer will also push notebooks with a thickness of less than 2cm as a major product for 2010, Lin noted.



    Lin also cited research firm figures saying that Acer shipped about 31 million notebooks in 2009.



    http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100201PD208.html



    (translation: Acer is not impressed with iPad.)
  • actual translation: we are acer. we make netooks. we are good at making netbooks. we don't know anything about ipods, iphones or ipads, so i don't know why you're asking me about this. could i make one? i guess. but why would i want to?
  • They make projectors and screens too. I think they realize that they need "content" and relationship with wireless provider to make a tablet useful. They don't have the connection to pull that.  I guess google/acer will join up and make tablet rival if iPad actually flies.
  • @sean & buzz - I just think it's really funny how they are both taking jabs at each other like kids!
  • iPAD isn't too hot.



    $499 for an overgrown iPhone? I think not.





    http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-will-cut-prices-on-the-ipad-if-sales-lag-2010-2

    After meeting with Apple executives CFO Peter Oppenheimer, VP Eddy Cue, and SVP Ron Johnson, Bill wrote in a note for clients today:


    "While it remains to be seen how much traction the iPad gets initially, management noted that it will remain nimble (pricing could change if the company is not attracting as many customers as anticipated)"

  • They're considering...being competitive in the future? Boy, the product must suck! ;)
  • Dopod roadmap


    We just got slipped a roadmap for Dopod, and with it we get some Chinese Android fare.


    First off there's the long-rumored HTC Dragon, noted as a 3.6-inch WVGA China-only Android phone. Then there's what's listed only as the A6388, a 3.4-inch HVGA device. (Screen shot courtesy of 3Gin.net after the break.) And there's also the Huashan, a monstrous 4.3-inch WVGA device (the Windows Mobile HD is 4.3 inches, if that helps put it into perspective. That said, it's noted that the Huashan may see a change in operating system to Windows Mobile, so ... Also noted as "in planning" are the Tianshan, a 3.2-inch QVGA device, and the Songshan, with a 2.8-inch QVGA screen and keyboard (front-facing, from the sound of it).


     


    http://www.androidcentral.com/dopod-roadmap-shows-htc-dragon-a6388-huashan

  • iPad is now completely useless. It's just a glorified kindle. It can't do anything else without getting uncle job's permission.

    that gadget is completely locked and chained to Apple mothership.





    http://infoworld.com/d/mobilize/ipad-questions-apple-wont-answer-972?page=0,2

    iPad question No. 1: Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?

    Anyone who uses an iPhone or iPod Touch with an office productivity app such as Quickoffice knows how frustrating it is to access Office documents. You have to set up a wireless connection over a local Wi-Fi network, enter the IP address, and transfer the files, or you send the document via email on an Exchange account so that it can be opened as an attachment.


    Apple says its "no save" restriction is meant to prevent malware from being placed on the iPhone or iPod Touch. I've never bought that argument, as the iPhone and iPod Touch allow you to save images to what is essentially a folder and sync those images via iTunes -- so why not other file types? Of course, that may be a loophole Apple is closing: The iPad's Photos app (a photo gallery), like the iWork for iPad app, appears to do away with saved photo files altogether, instead embedding them into the app itself.


     


    iPad question No. 3: Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?

    If the iPad doesn't support Exchange, I can't imagine it wouldn't work with VPN and configuration management, two capabilities that the iPhone and iPod Touch can claim.


    Although the iPhone and iPod Touch doesn't support over-the-air management of the device or its security capabilities, they do support these capabilities using emailed or Web-downloaded configuration files. This management approach is nowhere usable for enterprises, as it gives no assurance that users have the right configuration, but small businesses with local IT staff can deal with it. (Yes, several vendors such as Good Technology now offer more enterprise-class management tools for the iPhone.)


    If Apple has pulled these capabilities from the iPad, then almost no business can seriously allow an iPad onto its network. Apple won't say.


    iPad question No. 4: Can you use media services other than iTunes on the iPad?

    The idea of a highly portable media player is compelling -- I'd love to have one when traveling so that I could watch Netflix programs in the hotel, rather than be stuck with the usually uninteresting hotel cable fare. My MacBook Pro gets too hot to place in my lap, and watching a DVD or streaming video on the MacBook while sitting in a hotel desk is not very pleasant.


    But there is no way to watch Netflix streamed video -- or that of similar services -- on an iPad. On an iPhone or iPod Touch, the screen size doesn't make for great movie-watching, so the lack of a Netflix app on those devices isn't so bothersome. On an iPad, it will be. So far, it appears that iTunes will be your only quality media source on the iPad (YouTube doesn't qualify; it's more of a needle-in-the-haystack source for amusing clips), which means you can't use a service from someone else that you already paid for; instead, you'll need to give Apple money. Maybe using my laptop isn't so bad an option after all.




  • They are all evil - http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple_p1.html
  • Isn't weird to start thinking of MS as "the little guy" in this new decade? I know they got pert-near every business computer, but somehow they have an underdog feel to them in the "new technology" scheme of the 10s...
  • I don't really think of MS as the underdog any more than I think of EMI as an underdog. They're both big dogs that have become complacent, but didn't have to.
  • WebOS is the only true indie!!! lol.

    Though, I will give MS credit, Win 7 is great and Win Phone 7 looks amazing.
  • What's Windows 7? You see, I have Windows Vista so my computer is never stable enough to get online.
  • lol.... my HP came with a free upgrade, so after a couple months out, I upgraded. Been pretty nice.
  • I despise Vista with a passion.  Almost as much as I hate Mac fucking operating systems.  I want XP, basically, and that's about it.
  • Hey Toad... have you tried 7? It's really what Vista should've been. It's stable, attractive, and is smaller than Vista (i.e. faster). I like it.
  • Yeah I stumped up the £30 for a student upgrade to Windows 7 - very happy with it. Just wish I didn't have to bugger around with Vista for so long first.

    I've still yet to find a friend who has a Pre to see if I like WebOS or even Android, but it definitely looks nice as does Win Phone 7 (and I do like iPhone OS).
    Everybody has an iPhone or Blackberry that I ever see - it used to be so much more varied with SE, Nokia, Moto, Samsung...
  • I honestly use my 10 year-old 2ghz XP more than my dual-core fancy schmancy Vista machine. Sad but true. Thank goodness I kept the old machine when I upgraded.
  • According to our sources, the graphics subsystem of Apple's A4 not just has issues in fully supporting OpenES 2.0 but is a underpowered GPU for the screen resolution at hand. iPad's resolution is too high and as a consequence, A4's GPU cannot accelerate Adobe Flash.



    Now, Flash is accelerated by Imageon GPU inside Qualcomm's Snapdragon, Imagination Technologies PowerVR GPU inside Texas Instruments' OMAP [PowerVR SGX 530] and by the GeForce GPU inside nVidia's Tegra 1 and Tegra 2. For some reason, mysterious GPU inside A4 isn't able to do it. Recently, we ran a story citing ARM's CEO noting that ARM CPU and GPU?">Apple uses ARM CPU and GPU IP, without any particular details. Later, we spoke with sources from all sides of the fence and most of them claimed Apple A4 SoC uses IP from Imagination Technologies, in which Apple has same shareholding percentage as Intel. While we do agree with the sources that it would be weird if Apple used anyone else, that does not explain how come others can accelerate Flash, and Apple A4 cannot, hence the reason for Steve's defensive stance?



    In reality, Steve's claim that Flash video running off Cortex A9 core results in 90 minutes of battery life - is true to a point. Both Qualcomm, Texas Instruments and nVidia faced the same problem, and solved that problem by working with Adobe on GPU acceleration. One of Tegra 2-based tablets that is coming to market with T-Mobile 3G subscription offers roughly 700 minute [11h40min] of Hulu playback in HD quality. Furthermore, Adobe Flash 10.1 will not only use GPU acceleration for Flash Video, but for Flash animations as well, i.e. casual gaming applications such as Farmville, Bejeweled and many others.



    http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/2/22/did-steve-jobs-outburst-revealed-ipads-largest-weakness-gpu.aspx



    iPad is dead. say goodnight.

  • Because lack of flash really killed the iPhone?
  • True, but the reason we haven't missed Flash is that apps were created for plenty of content types and Youtube and BBC iPlayer (amongst others) stream in h.264 specifically to the iPhone. Will the iPad (with bigger screen resolutions etc) be worth creating a new delivery service for? I don't think so.

    Whilst these will still be applicable on the iPad, unless SeeSaw (which will be pretty big for UK TV this year as it launches with all channels after it bought up Project Kangaroo) and Hulu follow suit it could be a more major factor. I imagine a lot of people watching video as one of the primary purposes of the iPad, and if they can't watch their favourite services then that will be an issue. It's a bit of chicken and egg with the iPad needing a big userbase to warrant services making offerings for, and the iPad needing to offer these services to get a big userbase.
  • That's the stupidest one yet. Flash GPU acceleration is so new (and non-essential ) that Adobe doesn't even support it yet. Has less than nothing to do with why there's not flash on the ipad.. cant they get tech writers that have at least a passing familiarity with their subject, rather than a list of chipset features to rattle off?
  • I'm just not convinced that Flash will kill this device. It could still flop, obviously. But I'm not convinced that's going to be the nail in the coffin.
  • No, but if it's already nearly failed it could be the second nail to secure it shut.
  • or maybe it could do a small part to usher in html 5 more quickly. not saying it'll singlehandedly make html 5 an industry standard, but it could help movement a bit.
  • Apart from I don't think Apple really wants html5 to succeed either. If it did there would be no real need for apps as they would run on each smartphone in pretty much the same way. Moving between an IPhone, Blackberry and Android (and maybe Windows Phone 7) would be easy and Apple wants to keep people locked in.

    Admittedly html5 has a long way to go to beat specific apps (the email app on the iPhone is much nicer to use than the GMail html5 site for example), but Apple would lose a lot of what differentiates it from it competitors. Yes it's iTunes link up and media player still washes the floor with the others at the moment, but still I don't see html5's success coinciding with Apple's ideas of the future.
  • I really don't think html5 can be part of the conversation.... is youtube/hulu/etc/etc going away from flash anytime soon? I think lots of sites LOVE flash for what they can do with their site with it. I don't know much about html5 yet, but the little I read on giz, it's going to be a long time before it really is a huge impact. Flash is important. Maybe not as much on a smartphone, but surely on a laptop-ish environment.
  • Posted by: Sean RBecause lack of flash really killed the iPhone?

     


    no. because it's severely underpower in term of graphic. compared to competitor. that means apple has to BS customer what full web experience really is in a "connected device) (you want to listen to mp3 while reading ebook? forget it. you want to play silly web game or watch stupid pet trick clip on youtube? forget it.)



    it's glorified ebook or overgrown iPhone without the phone. or something... It;s useless electronic trinket for apple cult.
  • it's glorified ebook or overgrown iPhone without the phone. or something


    Now that I agree with. But the thing is, I think a lot of people want an overgrown iPhone. So to them, it's probably not an issue.
  • Apart from I don't think Apple really wants html5 to succeed either. If it did there would be no real need for apps as they would run on each smartphone in pretty much the same way. Moving between an IPhone, Blackberry and Android (and maybe Windows Phone 7) would be easy and Apple wants to keep people locked in.

    which makes sense, except it's the opposite of what apple is actually doing.. they're actually part of the team that's developing HTML5, and Safari supports it more than any browser (with the exception of Opera). Web apps were not only the first thing supported on iPhone (and now iPad) OS, but they're still the easiest way to get apps on there, and without the treacheries of their app store approval process.

    but at the end of the day, html5 just isn't a replacement for flash - maybe the flash of 10 years ago, but not the object-oriented dev platform it's become - even if all the html5 plans are eventually fully supported (which will never, ever happen) it still doesn't do the heavy lifting that flash can handle.
  • giant majority of flash is for web ad. and syncing multimedia item (youtube and stuff)... the fancier stuff are minority.
  • Did Apple just sue the entire phone industry? lol.



    They are going to be in a lot of pain after the backlash is done. I hope HTC gives a good show, not to mention google and motorola. The entire android crew is going up in arm.



    http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/apple-sues-htc-for-infringing-20-iphone-patents/



    ooks like Apple's going on the warpath, kids. Just a few months after Cupertino got into it with Nokia over phone patents, Apple's filed suit against HTC, alleging that the company is infringing 20 patents "related to the iPhone's user interface, underlying architecture, and hardware." Steve, you have something to say?


    "We can sit by and watch competitors steal our patented inventions, or we can do something about it. We've decided to do something about it," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours."

  • OMG, apples got the patent of pulling phone out of pant!  lol...

    This is going to be very entertaining for sure. A lot of internet joke...





    http://gizmodo.com/5483689/the-apple-patents-cockpunching-all-smart-phones-an-illustrated-guide/gallery/



  • lolol!
  • Motorola DROID tops iPhone sales in first 74 days


     



    Motorola sold 1.05 million Android powered DROID devices in its first 74 days on the market, the same period it took Apple to sell 1 million iPhones after the device first launched on June 29th, 2007. Google, however, sold just 135,000 Nexus One units during the same time period.


      http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=8997



    It's over android won
  • honestly, that reads a lot more like 'nexus one lost'.. those numbers are pretty paltry. the droid sold well (being available before christmas helped) but still: add up every android phone, across every carrier, including those made by the two biggest handset companies in the world (lg + samsung) and they still sold a little more than half the number of iphones in the last few months. you can find plenty of graphs and business folks talking about 'growth rates', but the numbers don't lie.

    what will be interesting to see is how many nexus ones google sells to at&t subscribers, when they start doing that soon. or how apple does when they move into verizon's turf.. so far it hasn't really been a head-to-head competition.
  • what will be interesting to see is how many nexus ones google sells to at&t subscribers, when they start doing that soon. or how apple does when they move into verizon's turf.. so far it hasn't really been a head-to-head competition.


    Exactly. That's when things will start to get interesting and you'll actually see where the market is going.
  • =(

    My poor Palm Pre didn't even make the news.

    lol.
  • Tsuru, you and your Pre keep getting the shaft!
  • The one true "indie" smartphone!
  • more like 'alternative' phone.



    I can't wait until they hand out smartphone for free at walmart counter. Then maybe we can hack a freebie phone for cheap mp3 player/computer terminal.
  • Can we call it an "alt.phone" then? lol.

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