Apple Vs. Google: Oh, It's On!

  • Despite increases in both the overall mobile market and more importantly, the smart phone contingent’s penetration of said market:


    1. Apple’s smart phone shipments are showing a negative growth trend
    2. and more importantly, Apple’s smart phone market share is experiencing a very sharp downward trend as shown by both direct observation and that of the 2 period moving average.

    By trailing the actual growth of the smart phone market, it is far from a foregone conclusion that Apple, nor any other company for that matter, can necessarily tread water by relying on the expansion of the smart phone market. It is quite possible for the winner in this space to capture enough market share to put a material hurting (in terms of valuation multiples) on the loser, primarily if that winner becomes a de facto standard (ex. Android OS, MSFT OS, iOS or even Nokia’s Symbian OS) that can lock out the users of the competing devices for much of the smart phone functionality.


    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/empirical-evidence-android-eating-apple-literally

  • And your battery life on the PSPhone? oh, I'm going to go with...... 1 hour?
  • probably about 20 minutes. but it will have very  nifty graphical battery is low warning. lol
  • Well, everything is about to turn ape shit quickly...







    Oracle is suing Google over patent and copyright infringements relating to its Android mobile operating system, including one patent written by the “father of Java”, James Gosling.



    Oracle stunned the computer industry last night by suing Google over patent and copyright infringements relating to its Android mobile operating system.

    The specific complaint alleges that Google infringed on 7 patents that Oracle acquired when it bought Sun Microsystems. The patents include one written by the “father of Java”, James Gosling, who quit his VP position at Oracle in April.


    The company also claims that its copyrights in “code, documentation, specifications, libraries, and other materials that comprise the Java platform” have been infringed. They want the court to enjoin Google and “persons in active concert or participation with it” (which seems to include all Android developers and companies in the Android ecosystem) from “continued acts of infringement of the patents and

    copyrights” at issue.


     


    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/oracle-uses-james-gosling-patent-to-attack-google-and-android-developers/2035


    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/why-software-patents-are-a-joke-literally/2039


     


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    google's best bet, probably would be introducing ultra cheap open source product that destroy oracles super expensive database. They'll run out of money first before the litigation is over.

  • Maybe  Nokia isn't so stupid afteral.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo

    MeeGo is a Linux-based open source mobile operating system project[1] which was announced at World Congress" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_World_Congress">Mobile World Congress in February 2010 by Intel and Nokia in a joint press conference. Its aim is to merge the efforts of Intel on Moblin and of Nokia on Maemo into one project. It is hosted by the Foundation" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation">Linux Foundation.[2] According to Intel, MeeGo was developed because Microsoft did not offer comprehensive Windows 7 support for the Atom processor.[3]


    Harmattan, originally slated to become Maemo 6, is now considered to be a MeeGo instance (though not a MeeGo product), and Nokia is giving up the Maemo branding for Harmattan and beyond (Maemo 5, aka Fremantle, and previous versions will still be referred to as Maemo).[4]

  • Eh, the Oracle thing will end in a settlement and everyone will walk away with something.
  • Yeah, that copyright, patent infringement stuff is just another sunny day in Silicon Valley.  Adroid OS is a huge target for sure.  Motorola is the king of patents and patent infringement though.  Last I checked they had a patent on the correct way to wipe your ass while talking on a mobile phone.  HP's ex CEO Hurd was all over that one but instead he decided to walk away from his employer with $14 Million change in his pocket.  Wonder how much Jodie Fisher got?  :D


    Finns hung onto Symbian for too long, I think.  But the Symbian OS Wiki claims that Symbian devices lead the market?  Don't get that?  This MeeGoo sounds good but isn't it too late?  Nok is big and mighty, their competitors are thriving right now and they are struggling severely.  It's a shame, always liked their stuff.  Looks like they may have to go back to their origin and start making paper and automobile tires again.

  • Even if the entire planet quit buying Nokia handset, NokiaSiemens is still the biggest seller of Telcos equipments. They just bought Motorola's division of telco gear. They practically own 2/3 of the globe.



    Plus, you know, nokia is one of those national security/too big to fail type of corporation. They can always ask for more money and open up brand spanking new facilities.



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    but the again, the gossip says the marriage is rocky. I guess Huawei will buy something soon.



    http://www.fiercewireless.com/europe/story/nokia-and-siemens-look-exit-jv-while-nsn-ends-huawei-co-op/2010-07-23

    According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, insiders claim that Nokia, which effectively controls NSN by having the power to appoint the majority of board members, has been looking to divest itself of its 50 per cent holding in NSN as it watched the JV struggle to compete with Ericsson and the Chinese vendors Huawei and ZTE. 


    Meanwhile, Siemens is said to have wanted to exit the JV since late last year, and is still apparently open to offers before its agreement with Nokia ends in 2013. Earlier this year, Siemens held informal talks over selling its stake to Nokia or another buyer, but these negotiations would seem to have failed.


    The stumbling block for Nokia, Siemens and any other interested party is NSN's large size (it has over 60,000 workers, many of whom are based in Germany), an unwieldy management structure and a track record of making substantial losses. NSN posted 2009 revenues of €12 billion, but recorded a €1.6 billion operating loss.


    However, both firms agreed to NSN acquiring Motorola's equipment unit, taking the calculated risk that this move would enhance the JV's position and credibility in the global infrastructure vendors ranking.

  • Stewart Addresses Google and Net Neutrality



    On tonight's Daily Show, here to read more posts tagged #jonstewart" href="http://tv.gawker.com/tag/jonstewart/">Jon Stewart addressed the Google-Verizon deal that may end here to read more posts tagged #netneutrality" href="http://tv.gawker.com/tag/netneutrality/">net neutrality. After addressing the details, including a Google slam or two, Stewart got to the real heart of things: how will this affect surfing for porn?


    Addresses Google and Net Neutrality" />



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  • Lulz.


    Stewart, like him or hate him?  I love him cause he exposes the joke that Fox News is with the best satire around.


    Steve Jobs: If you want porn, get an Android

  • uhhh, uncle Job will shut your phone away if you do funny things on it.  hmm, wouldn't somebody hack the system and create false signals to shut down bunch of phone then?  seems like an obvious flaw to me.



    http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/08/20/1410217/Apple-Patents-Remotely-Disabling-Jailbroken-Phones



    "Apple yesterday applied for patent to allow remotely disabling electronic devices when 'unauthorized usage' is detected. The patent application covers using the camera to take pictures of the unauthorized user and using GPS to determine location, and it involves ascertaining whether the phone has been hacked or jailbroken, using that as criteria for detecting 'suspicious behavior.' The patent would allow the carrier or any other 'authorized' party to disable or restrict the functionality of the device. Is this Apple's latest tool to thwart jailbreaking?"
  • Jobs is still mad that he had to give away $175 Million in bumpers especially in light of the $3 Billion profit he made in Q2 2010.


    Jobs is still mad that he decided to go with form over function on the iPhone 4.  He should have listened to Papermaster.  Papermaster not trust Jobs, Jobs not trust Papermaster.  Papermaster sent to unemployment line.  Jobs still filthy rich.


     

  • Rumor:



    new iPod (yawn)

    new apple TV (anybody buys this?)



    what apple need is a "cloud service" to increase attraction on their little gadgets, or else it'll be eaten alive by asian gadget makers soon.



    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67N5T620100826



    Apple Inc is expected to show off a snazzier line of iPods on September 1, as speculation mounts the consumer electronics giant may also unveil plans to reinvigorate its long-neglected TV project.
  • Selling about 5.9 million units, HTC came in at No. 8 on Gartner's chart. This is more than double its second-quarter 2009 figures and gives the company a market share of 1.8 percent for the second quarter of 2010. The research firm attributes this to the popularity of the Android platform and HTC's aggressive branding strategy.



    Gartner chart on smartphone sales



    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20013433-94.html



    HTC will double and ahead of apple next year.
  • New iPod nano... I give it 8/10 in gadget orgasm meter.... should have installed wifi, gps, camera, and micro SD slot....  than, it'll be the smallest full computer ever..











     
  • After throwing out Apple's stats, Jobs said, "we think we're ahead of everyone else," because, "we think some our friends are counting upgrades in their numbers."


    In other words, Steve Jobs is saying, "I can't believe that Android is growing so fast!"


    Google says it has 200,000 Android devices activated daily. Google has since responded saying, “The Android activation numbers do not include upgrades and are, in fact, only a portion of the Android devices in the market since we only include devices that have Google services.”


    When you consider that Jobs iOS stat includes iPads and iPods, it's safe to assume Google is activating more phones each day than Apple.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-android-2010-9


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    Dude, get ready for 5% market share deja vu already. There are 3 android processors in the market with 3 more coming, including a low end. All handset makers will have android models soon. Even Nokia. Apple has only one. Android evolution rate is 1000 times faster with the chinese hardware makers hacking away gleefully.


     


    Either Apple can convincingly tell the world  iPhone is the "cheapest" best looking fun on the net or it's toast. All the smartphones looks a like. a rectangular slab with screen on it. So it's all about internet service/fun thing to do in the next year.


     


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2009/jul/06/nokia-mobile-internet-phones


    Nokia is understood to be developing a mobile phone that runs on Google's Android software platform in a strategic U-turn for the world's largest mobile phone manufacturer.


    The new touchscreen device will be unveiled at the Nokia World conference in September, say industry insiders, as the Finnish handset giant tries to revive its fortunes in the smartphone market.


    Nokia, which makes roughly four out of every 10 mobile phones sold, has been losing out in the market for phones that can access the internet, send emails and download third-party applications, to products such as the Apple iPhone and BlackBerry Storm. The Android software platform, meanwhile, has been gaining ground with over half a dozen handsets expected to be available by the end of the year.


    Analysts at HSBC reckon Nokia had 47% of the global smartphone market in 2007; that was down to 35% last summer and 31% at the end of the year.




  • Sony still thinks it is relevant. Give it up already. Unless you sack your dumb TV exec CEO and go back to building cool gadget that people wants to buy, yer keep bleeding money.



    dump sony music and most non engineers people in it, all non electronic asset should be thrashed. All dead weight and fat should be cut pronto. then start making the most advance all in one electronic tablet and service.  Better hurry before HTC and samsung eat that company alive.



    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/01/sony_apple_itunes/



    Sony is set to announce a streaming service to rival Apple's iTunes at a trade show in Germany.


    The consumer giant wants to sell content to its own range of devices from MP3 players to TVs and PlayStation 3 consoles. Sony also has a toehold in the mobile phone market through its joint venture with Ericsson.

  • Crapware alert. AVOID verizone android phone.



    http://gizmodo.com/5632186/samsung-fascinate-lightning-review-when-greedy-carriers-ruin-decent-phones



    Verizon, unfortunately, is also what ruins the phone. Or, rather, what it's forced Samsung to do to the phone, which you could sum up in a word: Bing. Bing is the default—and only—search engine on the Fascinate. A Google Android phone. In the search widget, in the browser, when you press the search button. Bing. No, you can't change it. There's no setting for it, and the Google Search widget that you can snag from the Market is blocked (or at least very carefully hidden). Being unwittingly forced into Verizon and Bing's conjugal relationship is infuriating on its own, but the implementation also feels like the sloppy hack that it is. The co-branded Bing/Verizon portal that an in-browser search takes you to is ripped from the circa-2005 dumbphone-approved "internet," while the Bing Maps app that it pushes you toward is vastly inferior to Google Maps (no multitouch, Latitude, etc.). To be clear, Bing itself is fine. This implementation of it is not.

    Crapware abounds: a craptastic mobile IM app that only works over Verizon's network, a Blockbuster trial service and a Tetris game that you think might be a freebie, but in fact accosts you for $$$ shortly after booting it up. Frankly, I'm less forgiving of the TouchWiz interface than Jason as well, even if it is the best job Samsung's ever done. It's still messy and garish, like disco humped by a Day-Glo monkey tripping neon balls on paint fumes. (Neon blue is never an acceptable font color.)

  • I just bought a Samsung Vibrant and I absolutely love it. Best freaking phone I've ever used.
  • What's the music/video app like? How does it sync with your laptop?
  • The music app is really a lot like an iPod. When you rotate it goes into what basically amounts to coverflow (though they probably can't call it that), except the covers are CDs instead of square art. I have noticed that v0 files can sometimes playback at odd speeds (it's happened twice since I bought it), but I know that's been an issue for a while on other players.

    The sync I'm still working out. You can use Samsung's sync program called Kies, or you can use Windows Media Player. Since I hate WMP I've kind of avoided trying it. Kies I'm still working the bugs out on, but I think it's mostly because I was just so used to iTunes and it's a completely different format.

    The screen is fabulous and easy to read in almost any lighting. And the touchscreen keypad is probably the best I've ever used. The Swype typing system is really cool.

    Mostly I've been getting used to being able to have multiple programs open at once, I forget and leave myself signed into something and then get a new notification and wonder where it's coming from. The notifications system they have on this is absolutely great, though. It's just a little drag down menu at the top of the phone that organizes everything. I'm really digging it! Oh and there are none of the issues mentioned on the Verizon version above.
  • Oh and I forgot to mention, the phone allows you to choose the mounting method when connecting a USB. So you can choose to have it show up as mass storage if you aren't into syncing. Or in media player mode if you're using it in a car, etc.
  • Sounds awesome.

    Tech-wise, those Samsungs are unrivalled but it's great to hear the user experience has gone a long way to matching that.

    Have you thought about doubleTwist as the media sync? It looks really promising, but obviously I've not tried it as I'm still with an iPhone. And being as O2 have just said they're upgrading me to a 3GS with no contract for free, I think I'll be on an iPhone for a while...
  • Hard to pass up a free upgrade! I received a considerable discount on the Vibrant by extending my contract with T-Mobile. But I don't really mind, I could break it for $200 if I really wanted to and that doesn't seem completely unreasonable to me.

    I should mention the weird speed thing must not be related to mp3 files being encoded in vbr. I was testing out the included GPS Navigator software this afternoon and at one point the woman's voice slowed down and I thought my phone had been taken over by El Diablo. It's kind of weird because of how random it is, if it keeps up I might call and see if that's a known issue or if I need to get a replacement.

    I wasn't aware of doubleTwist but now that you've pointed it out I'm going to give it a shot. I might as well test out as many of these programs as possible until I find one I'm comfortable with, which is one of the nice things about Android as opposed to Apple, obviously.

    I will note that the phone is INCREDIBLY light. You sort of forget it's there and if you're used to the heft of say, an iPhone 2G (what I had before this) you might have a tendency to toss it around or let it slip out of your fingers. I also noticed the battery does get rather hot at times, not enough to burn my hand or anything but enough that I notice it's hot.
  • Google CEO Confirms Social Integration





    "As we get closer to — and hear more about — the launch of Google's upcoming social product, Google Me, the less and less it seems like a stand-alone social network and more like an interweaving of social connections into its existing offerings. It sounds eerily similar to those 'social' search results that have lingered at the bottom of the results page and third-party extras like Rapportive, the Gmail add-on that gives you the social networking lowdown on your email contacts."

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    I for one think, google is not ready to handle that much consumer privacy stored in one company. 



    My little red flag and alarm are whirling like crazy inside my head.
  • Galaxy S sales tops 1 million in Korea





    South Korea's biggest mobile operator SK Telecom Co. said Sunday it sold more than 1 million Galaxy S smartphone units at home as of last week after its launch at the end of June., Yonhap News reported.


    The sales of Android-powered smartphones made by Samsung Electronics Co. is expected to reach 2 million before December, the mobile carrier said in a statement.


    The competition in South Korea's smartphone market is expected to intensify as Apple Inc. released the iPhone 4 on Friday.


     


    http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/DigitalOne/Story/A1Story20100912-236740.html

  • Android will top apple by this holiday season.





    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/09/16/iphone_drops_to_23_8_smartphone_market_share_android_jumps_to_17.html



    Of the top 5 platforms, only Google Android grew in market share, from 12 percent to 17 percent of the U.S. smartphone market. Microsoft, Research in Motion, and Apple all lost share, while Palm hovered at 4.9 percent.



    The study also found that two out of three subscribers send text messages and one out of three subscribers use a browser on their mobile devices. 31.4 percent of users download applications for their devices, and 21.8 percent access social networks and blogs.



    comScore smartphone market share
  • lol squashed.... I was just about to put that same chart up!
  • http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/16/skyhook-sues-google-for-business-interference-and-patent-infring/



    You might not know the company by name but you've almost certainly taken advantage of Skyhook's WiFi location-based services if you're a smartphone nerd. And let's face it, as an Engadget reader, you are. Now the company is suing Google for anti-competitive practices and patent infringement claiming that the ad giant used its control over Android to "force device manufacturers" to not only integrate Google's location technology instead of Skyhook's "superior end user experience," but also terminate contract obligations with Skyhook where they existed. Specifically, Skyhook says that Google wielded its power against handset manufacturers by "threatening directly or indirectly to deny timely and equal access to evolving versions of the Android operating system and other Google mobile applications." Boston-based Skyhook filed two lawsuits after negotiations with Google broke down, a business interference lawsuit filed in the Massachusetts Superior Court and a patent infringement lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court of Massachusetts. According to Skyhook CEO Ted Morgan, "The message that Android is open is certainly not entirely true. Devices makers can license technology from other companies and then not be able to deploy it." Meow.



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    I might start freaking out once google start buying tomtom or the like. google map is the only app that google is potentially monopolizing. (all thhe rest are replaceabble once cheaper hardware is in.) But google earth exists because they got c. ia  imager. It's competitive advantage. That's why not even microsoft can create easy to use whole earth map.
  • Google Music Details Emerge: $25 Yearly To Stash Your Music In the Cloud


    If all goes according to this rumored plan, Google Music will be out along with Android 3.0 this fall/winter, and it'll charge you just $25 per year to store songs in the cloud. At least, if the labels let it
  • So my.mp3.com just 10 years later and backed by a company that dwarves the major labels bubble IPO'd startup.
    I liked the idea then and I still do now - I just can't believe it's been a decades. Oh the strife the music industry could have saved everyone if they had allowed this back during the days of Napster. Oops.
  • omg, they gonna called it Ping? ...really?   At least it's not "Bling" Is apple going to sue everybody who uses word "Ping" now? nasty.



    I wonder if it is possible to spread virulent meme in that network. heh...like ... "CC" music is the coolest.



    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9187001/Forget_digital_tunes_analog_music_on_the_upswing

    And, while CDs still make up the lion's share physical album sales, their decline seems likely to continue. Earlier this month, at an event announcing Version 10 of iTunes, Apple CEO Steve Jobs noted that Apple had removed the image of a CD from the app's icon. It replaced the CD image with a music note inside of a circle to indicate, as Jobs put it, the future of music: Apple's new Ping social networking music service.


    Like Twitter and Facebook, iTunes' Ping lets people follow online friends as well as musical artists by building top-10 lists.


    Overall, record company revenues fell by 7.2% to $17 billion in 2009. At the same time, sales of digital music formats -- such as MP3s -- rose by 9.2% to $4.3 billion, which is 10 times what they were in 2004, according to the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI). Physical album sales -- made up of CDs, tapes and vinyl albums -- fell by 12.7% globally.

  • Tim Wu on Net Neutrality/Google-Verizon betrayal








    In this deep, engrossing Engadget interview, law professor Tim Wu talks about Net Neutrality and why it matters, and why Google has been willing to abandon its commitment to an open network in a deal with Verizon. Tim coined the term Net Neutrality and has a new book coming out in November, The Master Switch: The Rise and Fall of Information Empires, which I just read for review; not surprisingly, it's one of the best analyses of network policy and the history of telecommunications and media I've ever read.



  • Bloomberg Reports Facebook Building Android Smartphones




    "Reports are surfacing of a Facebook-backed smartphone running Google's Android system, built by INQ (who also manufactures a phone for Skype). GigaOm's Om Malik says he's been aware of the project 'for quite some time,' and Bloomberg News (linked above) reported that Facebook will release two AT&T smartphones in 2011, first in Europe and then in America. (Adding that 25% of Facebook users access the social networking site with their wireless devices.) " Whether it's pure semantics or pure misdirection, as of yesterday, Facebook acknowledges work with INQ, but describes the collaboration as customization, rather than a phone of their own.





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    I am waiting for announcement that facebook is building a search engine. Probably I'll die laughing if it happens. The fickle fate of net company.



    Keep being evil google, you'll be joining yahoo in a jiffy.
  • Uh oh, St. Steve starts crying mommy. This can't be good for Apple's reality distortion field.



    http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/10/19/187242/Steve-Jobs-Lashes-Out-At-Android



    "Steve Jobs doesn't usually make a guest appearance on Apple's post-earnings conference calls with analysts, but this time he made an exception, attacking Google for marketing its operating system as 'open' versus Apple's 'closed' iOS. 'Google loves to characterize Android as "open" and iOS and iPhone as "closed." We find this a bit disingenuous, and clouding the real difference between our two approaches,' said Jobs. 'Android is very fragmented. Many Android [manufacturers], including the two largest, HTC and Motorola, install proprietary user interfaces to differentiate themselves from the commodity Android experience. The user's left to figure it out. Compare this to iPhone, where every handset works the same.' Jobs stated that the real debate is between 'fragmented versus integrated' and which is better for the consumer. 'When selling to users who want their devices to just work, we believe integrated will trump fragmented every time. And we also think our developers can be more innovative if they can target a singular platform rather than a hundred variants.' Jobs also criticized the Android Marketplace, pointing out that there are at least three other app stores being launched by vendors, causing confusion for users and work for developers. 'This is gonna be a mess for both users and developers,' Jobs said. 'Contrast this with Apple's integrated App Store, which offers users the easiest-to-use, largest app store in the world, preloaded on every iPhone.'"
  • Hey look. a netbook for $1000 !!!

    whoa, partying like it's 2006.



    Don't tell apple one can get 1Gig hard drive for $120 and a netbook for $300.



    http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/20/apple-event-oct-20-b.html

    "We have gone to flash storage, complete solid state storage. Why? It's up to 2x faster than hard drives. Much more reliable, especially in a mobile environment. up to 90% smaller and lighter, completely silent operation."


    "Apple is the largest user of flash memory in the world. We know a lot about SSD. Battery life: Wireless Web 7 hours, standby time is 30 days."


    "It has a younger brother. In addition to the 13.3 inch, an 11.6 inch, even smaller and lighter. 2.3 pounds. "


    "We're going to start off the pricing at just $999."


    11.6-inch, 1.4GHz + 64 gig = $999

    11.6-inch + 128 gig = $1099

    13.3-inch 1.4GHz + 128GB = $1299

    13.3-inch 1.86 GHz + 256 GB = $1599
  • Ouch. For such an expensive piece of hardware I would have imagined Apple would at least use the latest Intel chips i5/i7 or something - Macbook Pros are expensive but at least do have the best kit inside.
    This is a serious chunk of change for style over substance
  • He makes a valid point about Android vs iOS, however. A lot of people do just want it to work, and probably find Android confusing because of the abundance of options. Personally, I like the customization, but there's something to be said for consistency.
  • Yes, this is final for sale version. Ignore the press release image, obviously that didn't make any sense.



  • The trend has been building throughout the first half of the year, both Restivo and Rubin said.


    In the first six months of 2010, Android accounted for 30.8% of all smartphone sales in the U.S., up from just 4.6% in the first half of the year before, said Restivo, citing IDC data. Apple's iOS, on the other hand, slipped from 21.1% in the first half of 2009 to 19.8% in the first six months of 2010.


    RIM's sales share plummeted during the same period, falling from 51.4% in 2009 to 35.5% this year.


    "Android has made its mark on the smartphone market, irrespective of what quarter we're talking about in 2010," said Restivo. IDC has not yet compiled its third-quarter sales estimates by operating system.


    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9194278/Android_phones_outsell_iPhone_2_to_1_says_research_firm


     


    I am still waiting for my freebie phone with no contract at walmart counter. heh...




  • windows phone 7 looks pretty fucking sweet.... gorgeous OS, wonder how well it will do.
  • Microsoft phone is DOA. They are suing everybody left and right, so as a revenge everybody just play dumb and make sure that phone die a boring death.  I think microsoft tablet will be DOA too.



    http://blogs.computerworld.com/17329/windows_phone_7_launch_dwarfed_by_android_and_iphone_looks_to_be_a_dud



    Microsoft is said to be spending $100 million on the Windows Phone 7 ad campaign, and pulled out all the stops for a glitzy product launch yesterday. But a market research source says that only 40,000 phones were sold the first day, dwarfed by the 200,000 Android devices Google activates each day, and by the 600,000 first-day pre-ordres of the iPhone 4. At this rate, Microsoft will never catch up.


    TheStreet.com reports that:



    Microsoft, which spent a reported $100 million on the phone's advertising campaign, sold a mere 40,000 Windows 7 phones Monday, according to a market research source who tracks phone sales. The anemic sales number does not include the 89,000 Microsoft employees that will be given free Windows 7 phones.


  • To compare the first week of Windows Phone 7 to the most recent week of all Android phones is not a particularly fair comparison.
    It took both the original iPhone and later the original DROID 74ish days to reach 1 million devices sold.

    Now I know they were just single phones, but they were flagship phones released with little competition from within their own OS stable.
    Windows Phone 7 is about 5-10 phones, but those phones are very similar to their Android counterparts, so I think would still make a decent comparison.

    I would imagine they will get to 1 million in 50 days...we'll see.

    I'm just pleased that by the time I need a new phone in about a year, I will have a very broad choice of great phones from Apple, MS, Android, and Palm/HP
    The fact the current top end smart phones are better specced than my last laptop is pretty cool too.
  • Wondering when or if it will reach a point where these phones are too smart for the networks? Or another way said is will the networks be able to handle the capacity and data usage as these phones get even smarter? AT&T is struggling right now to keep up....
  • Who cares man,



    The first phone that can intelligently manage communication load NOT THROUGH stupid telco, will rule the market.  The stupid part of telephone and internet is the telco and corrupt congress.
  • I actually hope that the phone is a success... not that I want one, but I think the OS is quite beautiful and I'd like to see it incorporated in a lightweight Windows 8 or something..
  • Did you guys notice the raises everyone at Google just got? Designed and implemented by yours truly. Take that, Apple employees!

    http://www.businessinsider.com/google-bonus-and-raise-2010-11

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