Please! Share Thoughts on Design/Function
  • Hi All-


    So for the last four months I've been a lot more MIA (eating truffle fries) from Elbows as I've been working on designing a new SFCritic. Well--it's almost done (still have plugin, and edits to add) and I'd love your feedback. Please, I welcome any criticisms or thoughts...

    I currently am aware that the design is not functioning properly in IE because there is a js error I dont know how to fix. Anyone knowledgeable of js, please holla at me!

    Thanks guys!

    -David
  • Looks the goods mate, works fine on my end, just took a while to loads for some reason
  • Hmm, black and white, orangish-red for links, grey boxes and a black menu bar...looks familiar, thief!!!!!

    All that aside, really glad you centered the whole site. I feel like the sidebar features should maybe have black headers for "Features", "Music Submissions" and "Reviews" -- I know they're links right now, but they just don't stand out very well as separate sections (even with the grey background).

    Also, for the featured content slider, you need to crop bigger images. I think it looks slightly sketchy with the non-fit pictures \-:

    Love,

    Jason
  • i like the design.


    it's probably just my browser, but the feature content slider is not working properly.

  • Looks good to me, Chrome at work (super blocked) and Firefox 4 at home! Haven't tried my mini-Opera yet, though.
  • I agree with making the sidebar having black headers, they do get lost.

    Looks great overall. :)
  • Thanks guy for the feedback.

    Maybe it's my technologically inept ways, or maybe there is an error I'm experiencing with upgrading to Wordpress 3.0...but do any of you know the solution to the below problem...

    I keep uploading photos through the Wordpress post, rather than uploading directly through an FTP program. In the edit-able post, I can see the images, but when I publish the post, the image in (the single post) disappears.

    See...http://www.sfcritic.com/2010/07/28/ferocious-few-interview-two-ferocious-artists/

    However, take that post for example, and the Featured Content Wheel (plugin on homepage) is able to locate the image...

    What should I do?
  • It looks like your image source in single posts shows up as:



    http://www.sfcritic.com/2010/07/28/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ferocious-few.jpg



    The image on the front page refrences:



    http://www.sfcritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ferocious-few.jpg



    Seems like the "/2010/07/28" is showing up extra... see if you can set the default image directory to not include it?
  • Overall it looks good for colours and layout - but the page width is too wide (is it set at a specific width) as I can scroll left & right to get to each side of the page.

    It might just be me but my screen res is 2560 x 1440 and I still need to scroll back and forth to see the each edge (but with the all the content to the left hand side) - looks like this:

    image

    ~S
  • Interesting. It was suggested that I have my page width at about 900 pixels since the average users sets their screen between 800 pixels and 1180 pixels, or whatever.

    What do other people think of Slowcoustic's point?
  • I hadn't noticed that as all the content fits well in my screen (resolution 1280x800), but yeah I see a scroll bar across the bottom albeit a good bit smaller

    image
  • I'm getting the scrollbar as well.
  • 900 - 1000 pixels fit well within my screen, but you seem to have something wider...
  • So... in your css try changing your #wrapper and #wrapperTable to:

    #wrapper {
    background:none repeat scroll 0 0 #FFFFFF;
    font-size:0.75em;
    padding:0 0 60px;
    width:100%;
    }

    #wrapperTable {
    margin: 0 0 0 25px;
    width:950px;
    }
  • thanks a lot man!!
  • What do you guys think now? I made the changes...
  • I think... Morcheeba is hot sauce!
  • It's really good, but I think I'll raise an issue that I struggle a bit with myself.



    You clearly have a lot of quite varied content, which can make things difficult when it comes to building a clean, clear site.  I ended up keeping a fairly standard blog layout, but inevitably sacrificed the chance to showcase some of the more in-depth content I generate, such as the sessions and the label stuff and so on and so forth.



    You seem to have gone with a magazine layout, which is something I toyed with for a long while, but eventually decided against because it made the site look like just that: a magazine. I suppose it depends a great deal on what you're trying to achieve with the site, but personally I decided that I wanted a blog more than I wanted a magazine.



    That's just me though, but I wondered what people thought about the magazine format for blogs in general.
  • I've been infatuated with the idea of a magazine layout when I've looked at them, but in the end I stayed with the blog layout. I am very happy with the thumbnailed front page though, ala pajiba (one of my favourite sites), it makes me happy to see all our writers on the front page at one time as it goes back almost 3 weeks! In my opine, in blogland, if it's not on the front page, it often may as well not even exist...

    If I had a faster stream of posts, I would consider going to a muli-column post set up, like Pforks, but for what we are, it's unnecessary.
  • I like the magazine simply because of what Mr. Toad said - not all posts are equal. Regardless of what people might think of the quality, it's nice to not bury stuff you put more time into and let it ride for a while.
  • That was my big attraction to it.  I also have categories like Monday listings and podcasts which could bear being separated out from the rest of the site.  But I still like the feel of a simple blog design better and think something like a blog starts to suffer a bit when it becomes more professional looking, somehow.
  • yeah, (this is in no way a judgement call, clearly i like the theme) i feel like cb suffered from the visual overload that can come from that when it was on the theme that http://www.thebluewalrus.com/ is using. at the time it was on the upgraded version which also had a carousel, but it just became too much. maybe that had something to do with the neon pink/green color scheme though.

    kinda feel like it's a little more simplified right now... about as minimal as it might get while still including some features that i need on there.
  • Yeah I understand the reservations that people have about magazine themes, but we use one for the simple reason that some posts are worth highlighting for longer than others. Interviews, mixtapes and the like will get highlighted as a "headline" article, whilst just a new video by an artist we love just goes as a normal post. Below the categories bar, the theme we use basically works as a standard blog anyway - so I feel it offers the best of both magazine and blog themes.

    I really like the sfcritic.com look, but in general have never appreciated carousels. I don't like having to wait for them to switch between photos/articles and unless you have original photos to display I find them rather redundant. If you do have original photos though they can be quite nice though.
  • I totally hear what you guys are saying about magazine layout. Ultimately, I have been posting an interview (for almost a year now) every week. It's great because in keywords, interview is central to my website, however--it's crazy to think that having interviewed the likes of Incubus, Kings of Leon, Tegan & Sara, Pavement, Cake, B.o.B., Sonic Youth etc.. that I would let that content just disappear behind short three line posts about "download this..."

    In that case it was a no brainer. Also, and this is true with a lot of you old timers, after two years of posts (over 500 articles) I was tired of the archives by dates..I wanted to create something where people could discover based on style of articles or genres.

    Regarding the wheel, I totally here what you're saying Tim. In some cases, I will have original galleries. I work with two fantastic photographers, and hope to upload some of the back loaded content galleries into my photo section. I will likely incorporate those posts with the wheel as well.

    Matthew, I think (or at least I'm trying) it's possible to balance the magazine with a blog. I still have a blog below the different columns, which is updated regularly and more often (now) since I can keep my longer articles separate. I can assure you though, getting a magazine layout the way YOU want it--ain't easy unless you have CSS/HTML skills. Which is why I'm totally indebted to some blogger friends.
  • Yeah, I think if I could design my own magazine theme I might be more likely to use one, because the ability to emphasise the higher value stuff is something I would really like, but I would want to make sure I was happy that the layout was still as blog-like as possible.



    Arranging information effectively, as I found out during my last redesign, is a fucking art form!
  • @toad: that last line.... a-men.
  • second that!
  • Hey,
    Looks nice - the only thing that pops out as something potentially improvable are the Twitter, Facebook, and RSS buttons - while they fit nicely with the hand-drawn theme of the blog, I'm wondering if (depending on the demographic of who reads your blog) some not-so-internet-savvy people wouldn't be able to associate the 't' with twitter, the 'f' with facebook, and (most likely) the RSS logo with a subscribable RSS feed - in which case, you might be missing out on returning readers.
    Just my thoughts.
  • thanks for the tip. I'm actually about to redesign the site--again--with that in mind.
  • Just wanted to revisit this now that you've done the re-re-(rere?)design.

    I guess it is hard to tell with all your trendy 2011 in blogging posts, but have you noticed that the more detailed buttons have gotten you more return readers? I'm wondering if it is worth putting the work in to do so. I might anyway as they don't really fit my new theme...
  • yeah, SFCritic, I'd be interested to hear your answer to that question as well. i've been thinking about re-designing my buttons with the less-savvy viewer in mind.
    i've been trying for 'logos-only' when it comes to social networking but have found that my subscription rate is increasing at a markedly slower pace than my pageviews rate, and i wonder if it has something to do with the buttons' 'notice-me' factor, so to speak.
  • If someone doesn't get that the stylized T is associated with Twitter, F with Facebook, etc., I'm not sure it really matters. What's the likelihood the uninitiated in question use those services if they don't recognize their universal icons?
  • Personally, I don't care about the social networking buttons. I just loved the comment "I guess it is hard to tell with all your trendy 2011 in blogging posts". LOL! So true, so true.... ;-)

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