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When I post mp3s, I often only post them as a stream, with a link to buy them. However, I know that these mp3s are still quite easy to grab from the source code, or a few different ways like that. Are there any ways to stop this?
I don't want to upload them at low quality, or with a talkover kind of thing on them, as that defeats my aim of giving people a legal 320 stream, which they can't find anywhere else. (iTunes etc only have previews, and places like youtube/soundcloud have low quality).
I've noticed on a number of blogs the mp3 isn't visible in the source code, even though the player looks the exact same, how can you do this? -
If you're using WP Audio Player (and it looks like you are), have you tried the "Encode Mp3 Urls" option? It will turn the mp3 link in the source code into an encoded link; for example: http://example.com/uploads/radsong.mp3 becomes http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2Fuploads%2Fradsong.mp3 , which is readable by the flash player but not by a browser. Of course, anyone can take that link to somewhere like http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/dencoder/ to decode it, but it should stop casual source-code readers.
But bottom line, any thing that can be streamed can be downloaded by someone with the right tools. Hell, I do it to SoundCloud all the time.
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Yeah, encoding it doesn't help a huge amount, but I didn't know you could do that, so I'll at least to that from now on! I'm guessing that at least stops things like mp3 ripper extensions?
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I really wouldn't worry about it. As long as you aren't directly offering a download link I doubt anyone can reasonably take issue with you.
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I'm not worried with labels/artists taking issue with me, moreso if I get send something that isn't released, or post something on the day it was released, I don't like the fact that people can steal it so easily.
About to do a post, and can't see where the 'Encode Mp3 Urls' option is? I tried to externally encode it manually and post it back in, but that doesn't work. How do you do that? -
One good stream and a little audacity and I got yer mp3 in my pants. Check done. Some of my favourite leaks were NPR stream-onlys.
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I wouldn't really bother. However you think you are protecting the url, there are plenty of tools to rip it - JDownloader for example will rip just about anything from anything. If people want to steal the mp3 they will, but most just won't bother or won't know how.
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Damn, good to see folks are getting decent traffic by posting non-downloadable streams. In the days of yore I had to post massive downloadable mp3 mixtapes to get 1k views/day and that was with help from HM/Elbows. Kind of like what that "yer mp3 in my pants" Crane blog does.
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My general rule is anything new (under a month old), unreleased, or if I know the producer, I will only have it as a stream, and of course wouldn't have a full EP downloadable. If anything, I'm less attracted to reading blogs that are just mp3 dumps, or even if they are good blogs, if they give everything away for free I won't read them.
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Amen To That!
Personally, I despise full album blogs and also blogs that offer massive, individual downloadable mp3 mixtapes especially where they don't have any words or they say "hey, here's a mixtape, enjoy". I use to do the latter (which I regret I did) but I did try to write something about the mp3's I was posting.
Using Squashed's words, I'd like "to nuke" those music blogs off the internet.
But I can't change it, so I try to let it go. To each his own, or something like that.
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I love mixtapes! I love offering mixtapes! Tomorrow's will be a mixtape of the Most Awesomest Tsururific Albums of 2010 and it's going to blow. yer. miiiiiiiiiiiiind!
It's not about hits, it's about mixtapes, i.e. los musica!
My favourite? I'm not doing it tomorrow, obviously, but normally it's a mix of new and less-than-new and old and sometimes forgotten songs... I love lurve LOVE when someone comes for the hot song, but falls for the old song by the artist they never knew existed. I hope they grab the song, put it on their ipod, share it with their friends, who then go get the album, whatever!
Could care less about full music blogs... why? Because the number 1 full music blog on the world wide intertubes of love? http://google.com Great site. Has every album you could ever try to want to give a go thinking about thinking about! It's teh awsum! -
I've visited Tsururadio in the past and it's a fun blog. A little skittish at times but still well done. Also, looks like you've built a solid community which is excellent. I had no community with MNG, just people after the mp3's.
Whatever about the mixtape thing. Good traffic magnet and good if it works for you. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean its wrong for you to do. I found it funny though that "who then go get the album". In this day and age I don't think that happens. You even said, all you have to do is google search and can get anything you want.
"yer", "lurve", "teh", "awsum". Now that's a serious LOL! When I'm reading that I feel like I'm in the middle of a text message with my 13 yr. old daughter. LOL!
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Yeah, I don't get that defense of 'well there's nothing wrong with posting mp3s, because they could just get them from google anyway', it doesn't justify helping people steal music that people like us should trying to get them to buy.
Back to the original question though, it seems with wordpress that there isn't really anyway to protect the mp3s any more than not posting them as a download link, which is annoying. -
@merz - very true.. but I am surprised and happy when the good chaps and chappettes jibber on about all the sweet records they've bought. A lot of discoveries are through mixtapes. Lard knows I've bought tons of records after hearing one song from one of the member's mixtapes, grabbing more, then picking up the album.
I walk a fine thin line at tsururadio, but I walk it and often cross it with a ridiculous grin on my face most the time. That is, until we shut this bird down and we go paper. -
Dude, you've got a really fun blog and a large dedicated community, Tsurunation. I think it's called?
Anyways, you've also got serious large cajones to give away massive amounts of people's intellectual property for free and it appears sans repercussions. So shit, why not move to the logical next step? Monetize the effort, serious ads, serious traffic = serious $. I mean no bad conscience here, everyone's buying the shit after they download it for free. Right? Oh, but then there's Google...
Go for it Dude, what have you got to lose? No worries right, it really appears that the "man" isn't after you. At least not yet.
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Nope, no monetizing, well unless you count pimping out my wife's designs as monetizing & linking to the Amazon album download.
I don't see the point.
My job pays my bills, I live comfortably, able to travel, explore my money-losing tsuru-life without concern, etc, no need to litter my site with ugly ads (have you seen Gorilla Vs. Bear lately?).. I'd much rather use any popularity I may have, or any "hot post" I may get to promote the things I like & care about (like albums, record shops, indie design & craft shows, charity bike rides, etc, etc) than have some flashing rectangle on my site pimping Buy.com or some laptop or some other crap. Fuck, I can't even get to one of my favourite blogs, Pajiba, without it taking over my computer for some ad.
And yep, I've got balls, figurative & literal, it's one of the things TsuruBride originally liked about me.
I don't worry about "the man". I did a bit in '09 & early '10, made some adjustments, and then stopped worrying about "him". I don't expect the site to be up forever. Hell, I'm not even sure I'll keep it up through 2011, or even through 2010 for that matter. It's just a music blog. There are so many, they make a dime a dozen seem expensive these days.
The community is much more important to me. Love those geeks! Such an amazing & talented group of music lovers!!!
You know... When I'm perusing this forum, I often think we tend to over-think things a bit down here in bloggerin' land. We do what we do, you do what you do. Relax & enjoy life. Periodically, step back and consolidate when you get stretched thin, and if you ain't feelin' it no mo', don't do it no mo'...
Cheers mate!
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