Broadband should be cheap or free
  • As long as broadband and wireless are too expensive, true multimedia internet will always be stunted. The big labels, movie cartels and telcos monopolies are the biggest barrier, not technology.

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    We've repeatedly hammered Time Warner Cable (and its big-cable cronies) for crying to the North Carolina legislature about municipal broadband.
    TWC claims it can't compete with taxpayer-backed ISPs such as Wilson,
    NC's Greenlight -- and that it shouldn't have to. In fact, Greenlight
    and four other municipal providers came about specifically because
    corporate players refused to provide inexpensive, fast broadband. And
    now that local governments have proven they can provide it, the
    cable companies have cried foul, pouring hundreds of thousands of
    dollars into select political pockets all the while. That's the drama so
    far, and now a bill restricting municipal broadband -- mandating that
    providers pay taxes similar to private companies, for example -- has
    landed on the desk of Governor Bev Perdue. She won't veto the bill,
    meaning it will soon become a law; for whatever it's worth (read: not
    much), she also refuses to sign it. The reason? Here it is from the
    horse's mouth:


    I will neither sign nor veto this bill. Instead, I call on the General
    Assembly to revisit this issue and adopt rules that not only promote
    fairness but also allow for the greatest number of high quality and
    affordable broadband options for consumers.



    The legislation strikes a blow against public ISPs in a country that ranks ninth in the world for broadband adoption and download speeds. And that, apparently, is what "fair competition" looks like in the US.

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/22/nc-governor-will-let-cable-backed-bill-restricting-municipal-bro/
  • Wow you guys pay *a lot* for broadband.

    I'm on ~2Mbps (depending on time of day - but lowest about 1.4Mbps) for £10/mo (~$15/mo) with O2 in the UK.
    BT is the one holding up further speed increases on this side of the pond, but basic broadband (~1Mbps with 5GB cap is basically free if you live close enough to an exchange over here - it's slower if you live further away but the price is the same).

    I agree basic broadband should be free, like the option above, but the pipes do take big investment and I really don't mind paying for a good reliable connection.

    Mobile broadband is obviously much more expensive, but the infrastructure is also more expensive for the time being so that is understandable - this is where we need more competition to push the prices down though.
  • The pipe only needs to be laid once. It cost no more than installing underground electric cable. How much do you pay to pipe in electricity? you certainly will be outraged if you have to pay electric subscription fee on top of electricity you use. If they do that it'll cost you several hundred bucks a month, then you'll just proceed to flip your middle finger, install your own solar cell on the roof and unplug the electric meter.

    But all this discussion is going to be moot soon, if the news about complete end to end millimeter wave via fiber optic is true. (eg. the fiber optic doesn't need to be expensive optic grade cable.) if you can reel garden  hose or plug extension cord, you can create your own broadband.

    At any rate, if they can get away with it, they will keep selling "telephone service" way into the future. just like telegraph service company suing and bribing trying to stop telephony. Who still use "telephone" anyway. barbaric device. Telephone service should be given free if with monthly broadband subscription. They are not going to wake up until the country becomes the laughing stock of the world or when a group of chinese elementary student accidentally bring down national grid system while playing ping attack using their new multi terabyte bandwith.

    can't wait till the day I can isntall my own high bandwith antenna. hah...

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/1gbps-symmetric-fiber-us26-in-hong-kong.ars

    Published April 14, 2010 10:49 AM

    Take Hong Kong as an example. City Telecom made waves a few months
    ago with its US$13, symmetric 100Mbps connections. Today, the company
    slashed prices on its much faster 1Gbps fiber-to-the-home offering; a
    fully symmetric, 1Gbps connection costs HK$199... or US$26 a month.





    Want phone service with that? That'll be US$3. IPTV service will cost
    another $6-12, depending on the channel package. (There's also a US$115
    installation charge to run the fiber link from the building basement up
    to an individual apartment.)



    This is an exceptional offer, but City Telecom isn't alone in
    offering service that should make US operators cringe—and US customers
    green with envy. Hutchison Telecom offers 100Mbps symmetric connections
    for US$13. i-Cable offers 130Mbps downloads for $39 per month using
    DOCSIS 3.0 tech.


  • 1Gbps fiber for $70—in America? Yup.

    American ISPs have convinced us that Internet access is
    expensive—getting speeds of 100Mbps will set most people back by more
    than $100 a month, assuming the service is even available. Where I live
    in Chicago, Comcast's 105Mbps service goes for a whopping $199.95
    ("premium installation" and cable modem not included). Which is why it
    was so refreshing to see the scrappy California ISP Sonic.net this week
    roll out its new 1Gbps, fiber-to-the-home service… for $69.99 a month.



    Sonic.net has been around since 1994, selling DSL service in
    California, but it has recently expanded into fiber; the company has
    even secured the contract to manage Google's own 1Gbps fiber network that will connect 800+ faculty homes at Stanford University.


    Sonic.net's new approach to broadband involves stringing its own
    fiber lines to homes and offering bargain-basement pricing; indeed, the
    new 1Gbps offering is the same price as the company's earlier bonded
    40Mbps DSL offering (in which two phones lines each provide 20Mbps of
    bandwidth to a home). The price even includes home phone service.

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/06/1gbps-fiber-for-70in-america-yup.ars


  • The Federal Communications Commission’s ballyhooed plan to provide a
    new source of wireless airwaves for a “super Wi-Fi” network could become
    a casualty of two initiatives pending in Congress: one to build a new
    communications system for public safety agencies and another to auction
    off wireless spectrum to the private sector.

    The FCC voted in the
    fall to allow companies such as Microsoft, Google and Intel to build new
    devices that can surf the Web using idle TV spectrum known as “white
    spaces.” Proponents of white spaces have been lobbying the commission to
    create such a network for the better part of a decade.

    But now the hopes of the agency, and the companies that
    support the plan, could be dashed as Congress works to repurpose
    spectrum for mobile broadband and raise revenue to reduce the deficit.


    “We support Senate Commerce [Committee] Chairman Jay Rockefeller’s
    objective of creating an interoperable, wireless national public safety
    network,” Richard Whitt, senior policy counsel to Google, told POLITICO.
    “At the same time, we’ll continue working closely with his staff and
    others to ensure that the many consumer benefits resulting from the
    deployment of TV white spaces technologies remain protected as well.”


    While white spaces are not actually part of the Wi-Fi network
    currently utilized by consumers, FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski has
    championed white spaces as infrastructure that can create a super Wi-Fi
    network that would expand high-speed Internet across the country and
    help create jobs.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56520.html

    just invade the airwave already. what are they going to do? track every electromagnetic bleep in the entire continent? The dirtier and the more crowded the airwave from regulation, the better it is, cause no one knows how to sort it out. So, just re-occupy the airwave using software radio.

  • South Korea's Seoul To Blanket The City With Free Wi-Fi


    South Korea's capital city is already the best connected in the world, so it's not surprising that the local government has announced a $44 million project to bring free Wi-Fi Internet access to every outdoor space and street corner city-wide. Surprising, no. But jealousy-inducing? Oh my, yes.

    All buses, taxis, and subway trains will be covered, too. Korea Telecom (KT) already had Seoul's subway lines covered with WiBro, its nationwide commercial wireless broadband service.

    Was that good enough? Not in Seoul.

    KT
    had rolled out that leg of its service back in 2004 and put it into
    service in 2007. Before North American telecoms got serious about 3G,
    before much smaller municipal Wi-Fi projects stateside collapsed under
    their own weight, South Koreans were already living the IEEE 802.16e
    mobile WiMAX dream.

    South Korea's wireless penetration rates and download speeds make most of the U.S.'s cabled
    broadband look like an anachronistic joke. (Like when your grandmother
    tells a long, meandering story that's only funny because she's so old
    and adorable.)

    Seoul is already the long-reigning hotspot champ. You can already get wireless almost everywhere. Their version of the last mile problem
    is getting Internet signal outside. Actually, Seoul's problem (such as
    it is) illustrates both the genius and the frustrations of municipal
    wireless plans worldwide.

    http://www.fastcompany.com/1760834/the-wi-rich-get-wi-richer-south-koreas-seoul-to-add-free-municipal-wi-fi?partner=gnews


  • Vint Cerf Says Fix the Net With More Pipe

    "While ISPs may fret about Netflix,
    Hulu and other streaming media services saturating their bandwidth,
    Internet forefather Vint Cerf has a simple answer for this potential
    problem: Increase bandwidth exponentially.
    With sufficient bandwidth, streaming video services of prerecorded
    content wouldn't be necessary, said the now-technology evangelist at
    Google. With sufficient throughput, the entire file of a movie or
    television show could be downloaded in a fraction of the time that it
    would take to stream the content. Cerf, speaking at Juniper Network's
    Nextwork conference, spoke about the company's decision to outfit Kansas
    City with fiber-optic connections that Google claims will be 100 times faster than today's services.
    The purpose of the project was 'to demonstrate what happens when you
    have gigabit speeds available,' Cerf said. 'Some pretty dramatic
    applications are possible.' One obvious application is greater access to
    high-definition video, he explained. 'When you are watching video
    today, streaming is a very common practice. At gigabit speeds, a video
    file [can be transferred] faster than you can watch it,' he said. 'So
    rather than [receiving] the bits out in a synchronous way, instead you
    could download the hour's worth of video in 15 seconds and watch it at
    your leisure.' He adds: 'It actually puts less stress on the network to
    have the higher speed of operation.'"


  • Citigroup Questions Whether US Spectrum Shortage Exists


    "For more than two years, the U.S. mobile industry has warned of an upcoming spectrum shortage, but two analysts at Citigroup don't buy it.
    AT&T, trade group CTIA and even officials with the U.S. Federal
    Communications Commission have talked frequently about a coming spectrum
    crunch, as mobile customers move to data-sucking smartphones and
    tablets. Smartphones use 24 times the spectrum compared to standard
    mobile phones, and tablets use 120 times the spectrum, FCC Chairman
    Julius Genachowski said in a speech on Tuesday. But Citigroup analysts
    Jason Bazinet and Michael Rollins questioned what has become the
    conventional wisdom in the mobile industry. The U.S. has plenty of
    spectrum for mobile broadband, but much of it is in the wrong hands,
    they said."


  • Net Neutrality and Carrier Incentives To Invest

    "In policy debates before Congress and the FCC, the big ISPs and
    wireless carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, Cox, Sprint) argued that
    net neutrality rules would give them less incentive to upgrade their
    networks. The reality is just the opposite, says Infoworld's Bill
    Snyder, citing a game-theoretic work done by two researchers at the U.
    of Florida's business school. If carriers can charge premium prices for
    expedited service, they have an incentive not to invest. Hmm, this reminds me of the agriculture business, where prices are sometimes propped up by paying farmers not to grow crops."

    http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/11/17/1454209/net-neutrality-and-carrier-incentives-to-invest

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    http://newamerica.net/publications/policy/an_international_comparison_of_cell_phone_plans_and_prices

    In the case of unlimited data plans, the U.S. is in the middle tier of
    service rates. The U.S. offers a plan of $29.99 per month which is
    cheaper than Canada ($72.90/month), Japan ($52.60/month) and Hong Kong
    ($38.00/month). On the contrary, Sweden offers much cheaper unlimited
    data plans for $13.80 per month, followed by India ($19.00/month), and
    Taiwan ($26.60/month).


    For prepaid data plans, the U.S. has the most expensive rate at $10.24
    per MB, whereas India offers $0.0004/MB, $0.43/MB in South Korea and
    $0.50/MB in the U.K. Several other countries that also have cheaper
    rates are $1.64/MB in Taiwan and $1.70 in Denmark.

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  • Cisco, Telia to activate 'world's fastest internet connection' at 120Gbps, sounds pretty Swede

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/24/cisco-telia-to-create-worlds-fastest-internet-connection-at-12/

  • Terahertz wireless chip could deliver 30Gbps of bandwidth, stream uncompressed 4K video

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/23/terahertz-wireless-chip-could-deliver-30gbps-of-bandwidth-strea/

  • Andreas -horn- Hornig, hadez: Building a Distributed Satellite Ground Station Network - A Call To Arms
    Hackers need satellites. Hackers need internet over satellites. Satellites require ground stations. Let's build them!


  • for more news on construction of distributed net

    http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan
  • Wireless regulation is not about Free Market vs. Big Government (an economic perspective)

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    It's one thing to point to these flaws in the current structure of
    the wireless industry, but what is the actual harm being done? In the
    beginning of this article I pointed out that market failures would lead
    to inefficient allocation of resources, or at the very least less
    efficient than what they should be.


    Based on the specific market failures I outlined above we would expect to see the following:



    • Less innovation in wireless broadband and service packages due to the limited competition among suppliers

    Two wireless industry mainstays that I think are the clearest
    examples of an anticompetitive market are separate data buckets for
    different devices on already capped plans and exorbitantly high pricing
    on text messages relative to other data. Both of these "services" are
    essentially just extra charges for the carrier to release an arbitrary
    restriction on something that they've already sold you once. A
    competitive carrier that was more interested in luring customers than
    upsetting existing revenue streams could go a long ways by upsetting any
    one of these standard practices. Their continued presence in all four
    big carriers' service plans says a lot about the level of
    competitiveness in the industry.


    • Under supply of services and devices, and at higher prices for customers due to barriers to switching providers

    We're all familiar with the limited availability of specific devices
    on individual carriers. Five years after the iPhone launched, you still
    can't get one on contract on T-Mobile. Does anyone think that this has
    anything to do with Apple not wanting to sell phones to T-Mobile
    customers? Additionally, consider the gradual repeal across Verizon,
    AT&T, T-Mobile of unlimited data plans.
    As customers become more locked in, carriers can extract higher and
    higher prices for the same services. Lastly, witness the increasingly
    long delays for OTA software updates. While device makers bear some of
    the blame here, the carriers are increasingly a factor as well. With
    customers already locked in for 2 years with a new device, the carrier
    has little to no incentive to spend additional money pushing updates to
    their phone.


    • Reduced profits to device makers and under supply of devices due to the oligopsony power of the carriers

    This is difficult to prove without specific data on device makers
    profit levels. However, I think that it is telling that both Google and
    Microsoft avoiding the wireless industry
    cut wireless broadband from both of their most recent tablet
    announcements. So while we may not see an under supply of tablet
    devices, we are likely to see an under supply of tablet devices with
    mobile broadband capability.

    http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/19/3170718/wireless-regulation-is-not-about-free-market-vs-big-government-an

    sooner or later the Verge will win Pulitzer price if they keep at it...or ..maybe ATT hitman will kill them first.

  • Google takes internet to the next level with Google Fiber

    Everything about Google Fiber is revolutionary, including the pricing. There are three plans available:


    1. For only high performance internet at 5 Mbps upload/1 Mbps
      download with no data limit and "Network Box" included, users would
      basically only have to pay for the tax and regulatory fees imposed on
      the product. After either a one-time construction fee of $300 or twelve
      monthly payments of $25, Fiber is guaranteed free for at least seven
      years.
    2. The next tier offers the incredible 1 GB upload/1 GB download speed
      without data limits for $70 a month (plus taxes and fees). This plan
      also comes with a one year contract attached, but the $300 construction
      fee is waived and in addition to the Network Box, users are given 1 TB
      of free storage with Google Drive.
    3. For "the full Google experience," however, users will pay $120 per
      month. This might seem a little steep, but it includes everything that
      the $70/month plan does with the addition of a TV box with access to a
      complete lineup of channels, a Storage Box, and (here's the kicker)
      Google's new Nexus 7 tablet; Google says the tablet will serve as the remote control for the TV box.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/google-takes-internet-to-the-next-level-with-google-fiber

    okay google....next. stick a cheap solar powered wifi transmitter on phone pole and connected to the damned fiber... free public wireless.

    I don't need anything fast. Just 1-2 Mb/s . fast enough to check quickie text message, simple web browsing, map/direction.

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