Franz Ferdinand Sends Web-Sheriff After Pirates
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Confessed pirates themselves, Franz Ferdinand have recently taken a pro-piracy stance, encouraging fans to download some of their work. It was therefore quite a surprise to hear that the band has recently hired the infamous Web-Sheriff to stop people from downloading their recently leaked album “Tonight”.
http://torrentfreak.com/franz-ferdinand-sends-web-sheriff-after-pirates-090114/ -
Domino likely hired Web Sheriff, not Franz Ferdinand. They always jump the gun and blame the band, when half the time the band has no idea what's going on.
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Wait I thought FF is Sony for global distribution including US?
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at any rate the work they are doing is completely generic, there are more than a million way to clone the exact beat and feel. It's basic euro house. maybe anything UK and things. hmmm...I wonder how many i can come up with.
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Posted by: Sean RDomino likely hired Web Sheriff, not Franz Ferdinand. They always jump the gun and blame the band, when half the time the band has no idea what's going on.
though i don't know particulars of this case, few thing here:
1. a label like Domino would certainly let a marquee artist know they are doing this.
2. labels get to review and approve WS's copy. labels should be very cognizant that tone is everything in these matters.
3. do you really think that artists like seeing their music leak everywhere? it bums out most of the artists that i know. people (including rock stars) are allowed to change their minds.
FYI - we have Web Sheriff on the Dark Was The Night.
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Come on people.
Show me your blogging skill. Find better alternative or recreate the sound and feel in exciting new way out of old material.
SKIP the OBVIOUS stuff. -
it would've been more ironic if their new album was called "pirates" :D
can totally still do it FF, I know you want to. -
though i don't know particulars of this case, few thing here:
1. a label like Domino would certainly let a marquee artist know they are doing this.
2. labels get to review and approve WS's copy. labels should be very cognizant that tone is everything in these matters.
3. do you really think that artists like seeing their music leak everywhere? it bums out most of the artists that i know. people (including rock stars) are allowed to change their minds.
Did not realize that, Adam. I figured most artists wouldn't be involved in marketing on that level. I also read the supposedly pro-piracy article everyone is on about, and the band didn't really say anything pro-piracy. They just said they understood the value of ripping a CD and sticking it on your computer. There's a leap from that to 'take our albums! we don't care!'. They told people to LimeWire 'Sound & Vision' but that was apparently because they thought it was for charity and found out it wasn't. So I don't see how this is a 180 from anything they've said before. If anything, they were vague on their stance and now it's clear.
Web Sheriff trying to force public apologies though? Absurd. -
well if the artist says don't post. Then it's end of story. There should be no post.
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where are all these leaked albums coming from anyways? maybe labels should crack down on those leaks.
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Every label contact I have sends me leaked copies of albums well ahead of time. They are so excited that they just email it out and hope I am not a prick. All it takes is one person on their list to leak it to one friend who is less scrupulous and etc etc etc.
Leaks are almost 100% inevitable, I think. Fighting them might slow it down, but as soon as it gets slightly out of the hands of the people with some loyalty to the the leaker, then you're fucked.
I must state, for the record, that I have never passed on a single leak. For now. I'm sure I'll do it eventually, probably almost by mistake and then regret it for ages, but again, that's all it takes. -
Posted by: SongbyToadEvery label contact I have sends me leaked copies of albums well ahead of time. They are so excited that they just email it out and hope I am not a prick. All it takes is one person on their list to leak it to one friend who is less scrupulous and etc etc etc.
i'll take that one further. i think that labels get worried if a record *doesn't* leak as you approach the release date. it's a sign of apathy.
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Whoa adam, that is definitely one step further, lol
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I wish the albums I put out would leak, but I usually get them ups practically the day of release and I hand deliver them to most of the stores:(
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Adam, does Kanye get a talking to from the Sheriff for this?
http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/blog/index.php?em3106=220742_-1__0_~0_-1_1_2009_0_0&eM= -
i'll take that one further. i think that labels get worried if a record *doesn't* leak as you approach the release date. it's a sign of apathy.
makes complete sense. i don't doubt it one bit. -
Perfect! Kanye had better publicly apologize.
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the web sheriff doesn't care about kanye.
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also, that bit about franz ferdinand being 'confessed pirates' may not be true, and it wayyyy overstates the band's alleged original statement. basically what happened was this: they contributed a cover of 'sound and vision' to a bbc-curated covers comp in 2007, and the announcement of said track's release on its web site said something akin to 'well it's not for charity, so get ready to fire up limewire.' but THEN i found this article from the mirror saying that the band wasn't responsible for that message, that it was actually from an overzealous site admin:Franz Ferdinand lead singer Alex Kapranos said: "I don't know who put up that embarrassing bulletin on our ff.co.uk site. It wasn't anyone in the band.
"Fortunately we still have the keys to turn the bloody thing off."
Later Kapranos added: "The message that appeared on the band website was put there by someone who maintained the technical side of the site, but who is not a representative of the band.
"The message reflected their personal views. While we don't have a problem with this person attempting to think, it's not cool if their thoughts are presented as ours."
now, this piece is the only one indicating the band wasn't happy about that message being posted to its web site, and who knows if the above statement was penance for them getting a smackdown from their label/the beeb. but either way, this just goes to show: don't trust torrentfreak's "reporting," as it's about as reliable as two crusty tin cans and a broken piece of string. -
yeah, as i said above, the original 'pro' statement from the band basically said they didn't mind someone ripping their singles and putting them on an ipod, which is a far cry from 'take my music - please!'. torrentfreak has an uncanny ability to twist most anyone's words into a pro-piracy statement.
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Posted by: Scott (Stereogum)Adam, does Kanye get a talking to from the Sheriff for this? http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/blog/index.php?em3106=220742_-1__0_~0_-1_1_2009_0_0&eM=
absolutely. but we're trying to have the WS keep a lower profile on this project. they're in contact. it's weird for sure.
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you'd think that the internet's surfeit of information would result in people fact-checking stuff first, but i guess not.
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