Apple Vs. Google: Oh, It's On!
  • i always wondered why exactly dropped calls were a problem.

    and my guess would be that dropped calls became a noted problem because a lot of people became first time at&t users because of the iphone and didn't know what to expect from the network. plus some folks saw the iphone as the pinnacle of cellphonology, so the little gripes they had with the device became even bigger problems.
  • I'm on Sprint and don't really run into issues very often.
  • Apple Facing New Antitrust Investigation



    "After recent complaints of anti-competitive behavior, the New York Times reports that the US Department of Justice has opened an inquiry into Apple's business practices for selling music. Investigators have specifically asked whether Apple colluded with record labels to thwart Amazon.com's music download store, according to the ever-present anonymous 'people briefed on the situation.' Allegedly, Apple threatened to retaliate if any music label participated in Amazon's 'MP3 Daily Deal' promotion, which offered early access to some MP3 tracks." So it looks like the Justice Department won the DoJ vs. FTC fight for the regulation bully pulpit.



    Apple Surpasses Microsoft In Market Capitalization






    Today Apple surpassed Microsoft in market capitalization, a metric of the perceived worth of a company. At around 2:30 pm EST, the total number of Apple shares were worth $227 billion, whereas Microsoft's were worth $226 billion. Both companies stock ended the day in the red, and have dropped in value since the greek crisis began, but Apple's share price has been falling less quickly. Of American companies, only Exxon-Mobil has a higher market cap at this point at $278 billion. According to the article: 'This changing of the guard caps one of the most stunning turnarounds in business history, as Apple had been given up for dead only a decade earlier. But the rapidly rising value attached to Apple by investors also heralds a cultural shift: Consumer tastes have overtaken the needs of business as the leading force shaping technology.'"



  • I think iphone will go extinct within 2 shopping season.  There is no way they can keep up.





    http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/5/26/android-sells-1002c000-smartphones-per-day2c-what-does-that-mean.aspx



    So how near is RIM, the world's second largest smartphone maker? Its getting interesting here - RIM's latest quarterly sales were measured at 10.6 million by the analysts [we await newer numbers from RIM which reports in a cycle one month off from the normal quarterly calendar cycle] but yes, RIM's current sales is at the level of 42 million per year. Or the daily rate? RIM's daily rate in 1Q was 116,000 smartphones per day. How close is Android? Android reported in 1Q, that it was selling 65,000 handsets per day, or about 24 million per year. In just one quarter, Android family has grown unit sales 54% [compare with RIM who grew 4% or Apple who grew 1% from the previous quarter]. This is amazing growth rate. Its very likely that Android smartphones will pass RIM in quarterly sales during 3Q, even if RIM picks up speed and Android slows down considerably. The difference in growth rates is that immense right now. 



    Oh, and its totally certain, Apple cannot recapture third place from Android during 3Q. Apple needs to abandon its one new smartphone model per year strategy. Android has already 61 phone models in the market - out of 21 manufacturers it means that on average each rival maker offers 3 Android models. So think just playing the averages, go to an average country, to an average carrier and find that LG offers 3 Android models, Motorola offers 3 Android models, Samsung offers 3 Android models, SonyEricsson offers 3 Android models, ZTE offers 3 Android models - these are all dumbphone handset manufacturers who produce more dumbphones than Apple total sales. Then in the best case, that carrier is an authorized iPhone dealer who offers one iPhoen model that is less than a year old [the 3GS] plus another iPhone [3G] which is almost two years old by now. And in the worst case that carrier does not support Apple, but does offer these 15 Android smartphone models many of which look to the average un-infromed customer remarkably similar to an iPhone [and usually even cost less].
  • Samsung are pushing Bada (their own OS/platform) - http://www.bada.com (their older model smartphones used WinMo 6 I think)

    SE are pushing Android (their older model smartphones used WinMo 6)

    Motorola are pushing Android (the "DROID" anyone?)

    Symbian only recently went open source (the first fully open source release was Feb 2010), but by then it had lost momentum to Android and a lot of manufacturers have moved away, so yeah it looks to be pretty much Nokia only at this point. It may still be used on some "dumb" smartphones though I suppose.

    Unless Nokia pull out an amazing smartphone soon, people will start moving further and further away from them in the developed nations. Nokia did have by far the best OS on old "dumb" phones or feature phones, and that is what gave them much of their market share - anyone could pick up a Nokia phone and just make and call or text or play snake and that was great. They haven't been leading for a while now though - I just hope Symbian 3 is all it is supposed to be (but worryingly the reviews so far have not been so positive).

    ...and who the hell are Pantech?
  • Hmmm.. battery life is a difficult one to answer (and yes it's an old 3G)

    I will never talk on the phone for 4 or 5 hours a day so actual talk time isn't something I can answer, but I do tend to run the battery out about 70-80% each day.
    So that is about 3 hours of music, and then on top of that some calls, and also texts, twitter, email, etc all day. If I'm out and about it is pretty much dead by the time I get home. I don't really run into problems with battery unless I'm out and about meeting up with people all day - so constant short phonecalls, texts and twitter - then it doesn't last a day unless I'm careful.

    Basically, the battery isn't an issue most the time, but I hear the 3GS gets about 20% more juice which would be very useful at times - but even then you would need to charge it each night in reality.

    It isn't a fair comparison at all, but my last phone was a SE w880i, which was a"dumb" walkman feature phone. It was tiny and had a small non touch-screen to match, but the battery life was amazing. It would last happily for a whole 3 day music festival without a charge. That is what I want from battery life. It was a great little phone until it went swimming in an Ibizan pool...
  • Wow we seem to have turned this into a proper geek thread - but yeah I think the newer iPhone chip is smaller and more efficient so that is where the savings are. It is the same screen so it can't be that.

    ...and what happens in Ibiza stays in Ibiza. There is now way the photos are going on here ;)
  • Phew. A lot of info right there.
    I had very basic understanding of the wireless tech involved - time to do a little reading to grasp this a little better.

    This thread will go back to Apple v Google in the lead up to the iPhone 4G announcement in a couple of weeks, but I think we've got some geek time to fill before then...
  • RIP Lala, we hardly knew ye

    There was a time, once, when you could quickly and easily rip all of your music to the internet, where it would be aggregated and streamed back to you wherever and whenever you were. That time was 1997, and the site was MP3.com. Legal disputes saw it only lasting for a few years before being absorbed by the might of the record labels, but in the decade to come many tried to fill its shoes. One of the best was Lala, a site that embraced the cloud and enabled streaming albums if you could prove that you had physical copies, but then went further by letting you buy online access to other albums for just a buck or two. (You could also buy MP3 versions at prices competitive to iTunes and amazonmp3.com.) You could also stream any album in the site's massive collection in its entirety once for free, which, for many of the products being produced by those major record labels, was more than enough.



    Now, it's gone. We knew this was coming, a result of Apple's purchase of the site, but that doesn't make it any easier to swallow. The site was doing great things and seemed to be only a few mobile apps away from being even greater. Now those apps won't happen. The service will surely be reborn in a year or two as part of some cloud-friendly iTunes, but then it's doubtful that Lala will hum its melody to any device not sporting an apple embossed on the back. That leaves non iOwners with alternatives like MP3tunes.com and Catch Media, neither as polished nor as broad, and hopes that Google Audio delivers on its promise. Until then, we'll be remembering the better times.



    http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/rip-lala-we-hardly-knew-ye/
  • lol... yesterday was their last day, so it's a new-old thing.
  • It's recession, even bad news is sparse these days.
  • i'm just hoping that apple ends up offering all of lala's functionality in itunes. probably won't, but a man can hope. and having to compete against all the new google gobbledygook might force them to. maybe we'll know something by next week at WWDC.
  • Question: why would anybody ever need 720p recording ability on a handphone?...why?



    love the eco packaging.



  •  VS, iphone... uhhh, look at the cute tiny iphone...



    (Iphone G4 is officially dated already, because of the processor. And snapgradon dual core is already out, so apple is 2 generation behind by now.)



  • whatever happens to wimax anyway? I thought by now I would be able to rig my own wimax antenna and get rid of phone company. Is there any reason why for densely populated area, people can't build their own simple "mesh" 4G antennas?



    (Googling my own question)



    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-Huron-River-To-Boast-Kilmer-Peak-WiMAX-Adapter-142650.shtml



    Though the platform is still in development, quite a bit of information has surfaced, recently, on the Intel Huron River. This platform is meant to power the next generation of Intel-based laptops and, thus, strives to be both as power efficient and feature packed as possible. Intel, of course, like any other hardware developer, would like to keep things under wraps for as long as possible. Nevertheless, nothing can escape the vigilant gaze of market watchers for long. The last report about this technology revolved around the fact that the integrated graphics core within the Sandy Bridge CPUs would be capable of playing Blu-ray Stereoscopic 3D media and HDMI 1.4. Now, the folks over at Fudzilla managed to uncover another interesting fact, this time with regard to wireless connectivity. Currently, only a limited number of high-end Calpella-based notebooks feature support for WiMAX. Said machines have this ability thanks to the Kilmer Peal 2x2 AGN adapters. The Huron River, as end-users know, will replace the Calpella platform, which means that the aspect of wireless connectivity should improve as well. Sure enough, the report states that the Centrino Advanced N + WiMAX 6250 Kilmer Peak adapter will supposedly be available on most, if not all, new notebooks starting next year. It is interesting to note that, while on the rise, WiMAX is not exactly expected to overly grow even in 2011, which means that Kilmer Peak may be slightly ahead of its time. The CPUs at the heart of the Huron River, the aforementioned Sandy Bridge, will be monolithic chips, with a unified core that includes both computing and graphics components. They will be based on the 32nm manufacturing process. Intel will also reportedly bring out a number of Centrino adapters with Bluetooth and WiFi support for other market segments.  


  • Posted by: Hawk - Lost In Space Do you know of any other indie music blog forums


     


    I have no idea. You can always turn your blog into a gateway to such forum. a lot of work, but could be fun.



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    About apple.  Is it me or that company is an absolute bubble right now? Their market share is a joke. They are not going to stay on top of phone market forever. Phone market is even deadlier game than PC. The turn around is 6 months. And they are already behind 2 generation.





    What they gonna do after iTune sale is going flat? iTV?





    http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=225402010
  • no word on lala/itunes integration, but the iphone 4 does look enticing...
  • (tech geek break)

    it's not that there were hundreds of simultaneous wi-fi connections - this happens all the time, and large networks can handle thousands, let alone hundreds in the same room. the problem was that it was a room full of journalists and the public wi-fi wasn't working, so nearly all of them turned on their own personal 'mi-fi' transmitters, each creating its own new channel. 500 wi-fi *networks* in the same room isn't a normal circumstance, and the interference screwed everyone attempting to use any wi-fi network.

    http://futuretense.publicradio.org/blog/index.php?id=677444556
  • i was wondering what the deal with that was, but i knew i should trust the almighty jobsy!
  • lol.



    The damned thing is calling the mothership.



    Stoobalou writes with a story that got started earlier this month when iPhone users in the US and the UK noticed that their phones seemed to be sending large data bursts via 3G overnight. (Providers are ending unlimited contracts, so iPhone users are paying more attention to how much data they are using.) The discussions began on MacOSRumors and an Apple discussion forum. Thing.co.uk makes this guess as to what is going on, but doesn't offer much in the way of substantiation: "The simple fact of the matter is — as far as we can tell — that the iPhone's push notifications and other small transfers of data are totted up throughout the day and the total for all of those notifications is added up after dark and sent to your airtime provider while your phone is sleeping. If these tiny amounts of data were individually listed your bill would probably be the size of a telephone directory. The reason it is using the 3G network rather than Wi-Fi is that all iPhones up to and including the 3Gs turn off Wi-Fi push functionality while the phone is in sleep mode, in order to preserve battery life. The iPhone 4, incidentally, has better power management so will not need to do this."



    http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/06/18/152254/Sleeping-iPhones-Send-Phantom-Data
  • Meanwhile, I think the new iPhone has more ram or memory (can't remember) than the iPad? Don't know why they skimped on some ipad memory... but obviously, no one cares! ;)
  • Hitler found out the antenna issue... oh my...



    Money quote "“Damnit, how am I supposed to have an online flamewar with all those Android fanboys?”"







    http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/25/hitler-iphone-4-video/
  • Anroid won. time to start thinking about shorting moto and appl.. heh.



    Every dinky one button freebie phone will  be android by next new year.



    http://www.pcworld.com/article/200970/cheap_chipsets_for_google_android_smartphones_due_out_in_q3.html



    Taiwanese chipset developer MediaTek will start rolling out low-cost chipsets designed for handsets that use Google's Android mobile software in the third quarter of this year, promising to drive down the cost of such handsets in China.


    MediaTek holds the lion's share of the market for mobile phone chips in China through its focus on low-cost chips and partnerships with dozens of small mobile phone makers throughout the nation. The development of a chipset specifically for Android could unleash hundreds of new smartphone designs in China. MediaTek has worked with Chinese handset makers for years, providing the chips and other hardware, while the handset makers focus on the external design of the phones and handset sales.


    A MediaTek representative confirmed the new time frame on Tuesday. Previously, the company had simply said "in the second half of this year."


    The deal with Google is similar to one with Microsoft announced early this year, though the Microsoft pact combines MediaTek chips and hardware with Microsoft's Windows Mobile software. The goal for both initiatives is the same, to put thousands of new, low-cost smartphones on the market in places such as China and India.

  • This thing is huge... (first kyochera android)




  • Android is now on top. And the game hasn't even begun in china yet. (I want my free android hardware now...!)



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    Google's free and open-source Android operating system shot past its competitors last quarter to become the top-selling U.S. smartphone OS, according to research firm Canalys.


    Android accounted for 34% of the 14.7 million smartphones sold in the U.S. last quarter, while RIM was 32.1% of the market and Apple was 21.7%, Canalys estimates. That's a huge victory for Google, which was zero two years ago.




    http://www.businessinsider.com/android-soars-past-rim-and-apple-in-q2-now-the-uss-top-selling-smartphone-platform-2010-8
  • I still don't get how Nokia leads in smartphone marketshare - I don't know a single person with one!
    They make great feature phones and "dumb" phones, but smartphones? really?
  • Yep, never seen one either.
  • I always thought Nokia is either another swedish furniture company or a weird japanese electronic toy outfit. They are not even finnish gadget maker you think it is, mind you. They are a giant conglomerate, old school. Thinks Siemens, BAe, or GE. Cold war era nuclear power controller and stuff.   Nevermind the cooler kids like Apple or Sony, even HP has hipper beginning than nokia.



    but cool name anyway.



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    anyway. Android, need to clean up its pedigree as well. heh.

    but I wouldn't worry too much tho' . Soon people will make their own handphone while giving the middle finger to the big telco. The next snapdragon version is so powerful, people probably will rip apart the useless crud and turn it into fully functioning wireless networking handheld computer in no time.



    Android Mythbusters (Matt Porter)

    Some weeks ago I was attending Embedded Linux Conference Europe. My personal highlight at this event was the excellent Android Mythbusters presentation given by Matt Porter.


    As you may know, Matt Porter was heavily involved in the MIPS and PPC ports of Android, so he and his team have seen the lowest levels of Android, more and deeper than even cellphone manufacturers ever have to look into it.


    The slides of his presentation are now available for download. I would personally recommend this as mandatory reading material for everyone who has some interest in Android.


    The presentation explains in detail why Android is not what most people refer to when they say Linux. What most people mean when they say Linux is the GNU/Linux system with it's standard userspace tools, not only the kernel.


    The presentation shows how Google has simply thrown 5-10 years of Linux userspace evolution into the trashcan and re-implemented it partially for no reason. Things like hard-coded device lists/permissions in object code rather than config files, the lack of support for hot-plugging devices (udev), the lack of kernel headers. A libc that throws away System V IPC that every unix/Linux software developer takes for granted. The lack of complete POSIX threads. I could continue this list, but hey, you should read those slides. now!


    Just one more practical example: You cannot even plug a USB drive to an android system, since /dev/sd* is not an expected device name in their hardcoded hotplug management.


    Executive summary: Android is a screwed, hard-coded, non-portable abomination.


    I can't wait until somebody rips it apart and replaces the system layer with a standard GNU/Linux distribution with Dalvik and some Android API simulation layer on top. To me, that seems the only way to thoroughly fix the problem...


    http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2009/11/04/#20091104-android_mythbusters


  • btw... I love the people going to Apple stores and jailbreaking the iphones & ipads! lol. funny shit. Then apple blocks the jailbreakme website, so someone takes in a Nexus One, tethers it to an iPad and jailbreaks it!


    lololol.
  • whew, Apple engineering is really third rate. Still overheating battery? They will never survive in a big trade war.  (eg. Obama did try to find 'flaw' on Prius to thump down Japan runaway hybrid strength. But it turns out the software was made by greenhill (think F-35 fighter) so blaming software flaw is out of the question. On top of that Prius is the top selling hybrid in Japan without flaw. exact same everything.)  If Japan retaliates, Apple is going broke getting sued from their third biggest market.





    http://www.physorg.com/news200387461.html



    After prodding from the Japanese government, Apple Inc. will post prominent notices on its website warning some iPod Nano music players in Japan may overheat.



    Sixty-one cases of batteries overheating have been reported in first-generation iPod Nano machines sold in 2005 and 2006, according to Japan's Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry.


    Some units were warped by the heat that caused minor burns when people touched them, but no serious injuries or damage have been reported, it said.


    A notice for a battery replacement was posted late last year on Apple Japan's website but it requires several clicks before it can be read.


  • Hey, Microsoft is planning to make their own chip (just like Apple A5), wonder what they gonna do?  Guessing Microsoft, they probably just gonna do another "me-too" iPad/iPhone chip.



    What will google do? lol... probably nothing, they have no experience with non server hardware. But would be interesting if they invest on pushing wider adoption of high power ARM processor. Sort of "hurry up guys" Android alliance.



    http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/interviews/359893/q-a-how-arm-stays-six-years-ahead-of-the-game/2

    Q. Can you tell us more about your new licensing deal with Microsoft and what you expect the outcome of that partnership to be?


    A. Sadly, no I can’t give you any more detail. Microsoft has bought an architecture licence, an architecture licence enables people to build their own totally compatible microprocessors. Some people choose to do that – the most well-known example is Qualcomm with its Snapdragon processor. As for why Microsoft has done this, that’s a matter for Microsoft. We’re not able to say anything about it.

  •    Sony/PSP-Go Phone
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    Image is an Engadget mock-up of what Sony's PSP-Go Phone may look like. Credit: Engadget


    Sources have it that Sony Ericsson is hard at work developing a PSP Go-like phone running on Android 3.0 platform. According to Engadget the phone targets gaming fans and resembles somewhere between a Samsung Captivate and the PSP Go.








    The slider phone will have a touchscreen that will be between 3.7 and 4.1 inches with WVGA resolution or better and a landscape slide out game control panel. In place of the joystick the device will have long touch pad for analog controls along with the standard PSP buttons. The device will be running a 1GHz Snapdragon CPU and have a custom skin overlay on Android 3.0.


     


    http://www.physorg.com/news201175168.html

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