Rebels Reject Gaddafi Resignation Meeting Offer

JERUSALEM—Israel will need to boost military spending and may seek
an additional $20 billion in U.S. security assistance to help it manage
potential threats stemming from popular upheavals in the Arab world,
Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Monday.

Still, he said Israel
shouldn't fear changes in the region or the risk of offering bold
concessions in a renewed bid to achieve peace with the Palestinians.

"It's a historic earthquake...a movement in the right direction, quite
inspired," Mr. Barak said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal,
surveying the youthful revolts in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and the Gulf.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703386704576186861325527354.html?mod=googlenews_wsj



http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-currency-wars-flash-points-age-rage

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Youth groups to protest in Kuwait

A group called the Fifth Fence has urged followers on the social
networking site Twitter to take to the streets on Tuesday as parliament
holds its first session in six weeks.

They are urging Sheikh Nasser Mohammad al-Ahmad al-Sabah, the prime minister, to step down, after five years in power.

The al-Sabah family has ruled the small Gulf state for more than 250 years, and political parties are banned.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/03/20113810848167726.html

How has the Arab League not already been meeting on this?! Seriously.

Here's a link to a CNN opinion piece from this dickhead David Frum regarding the U.S. intervening in the Libya mess:

Friday, 25 February 2011 12:30

Lawmakers in Somalia's Transitional Federal Government (TFG) have
voted overwhelmingly to extend the term of the temporary government for
another three years — to the rebuke of the United Nations, the United
States, and Somali analysts. The TFG was established in 2004 with
a five-year mandate meant to lead to the establishment of a permanent
government, following national elections in 2009. In January 2009, the
TFG extended this mandate an additional two years to 2011, also
expanding the number of members of the parliament, including 200 members
of parliament (MPs) from the opposition Alliance for the Re-liberation
of Somalia and 75 MPs from civil society and other groups, doubling the
size of the TFG to 550 MPs. Consideration of a constitution continues.


In a February 3 meeting in Mogadishu which was attended by some 435
lawmakers, the House unanimously approved the motion put forward by the
House’s Constitution and Federal Affairs Committee, led by lawmaker
Abdiqadir Sheikh Ismail.

“Out of the 435 members present today,
421 voted in favor, 11 rejected while 3 abstained,” said Parliament
Speaker Sharif Hassan Sheikh Aden. "The extension period will run from
August 2011 until August 2014 without further extension," he added.
Minutes before he made the declaration, the Speaker suggested to the
parliament that the extension term should be limited to two years,
plenty of time for the House to complete its business. However, that
proposal was rejected by the lawmakers.  

Now that the
parliament's mandate has been extended, members are expected to select a
new Speaker in the next few months and a President in July or August.


The terms of a 2009 peace deal signed in neighboring Djibouti that
formed the interim government require the mandate to expire on August
20, 2011, by which time the interim government should have enacted a new
constitution and held a parliamentary election.

Following the
collapse of the Barre regime in 1991, various groupings of Somali
factions have sought to control the national territory (or portions
thereof) and have fought small wars with one another. Approximately 14
national reconciliation conferences have been convened over the
succeeding decade.

The governments of Egypt, Yemen, Kenya, and
Italy also have attempted to bring the Somali factions together. In
1997, the Organization of African Unity and the Intergovernmental
Authority on Development (IGAD) gave Ethiopia the mandate to pursue
Somali reconciliation. In 2000, Djibouti hosted a major reconciliation
conference (the 13th such effort), which in August resulted in the
creation of the Transitional National Government (TNG), whose three-year
mandate expired in August 2003. Kenya organized the Somalia National
Reconciliation Conference, a 14th reconciliation effort, in 2002 under
IGAD auspices. The conference concluded in August 2004 with the
establishment of a Transitional Federal Government (TFG).

Somalia has been without an effective central government since the ouster of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991.

Corrupt politicians and political payoffs are widely blamed for the
failure to make progress toward a permanent political unit. Abdullahi
was asked about whether Somali legislators received enough money to be
able to reject corruption — they each receive $300 a month from the
United Nations. He replied: “The Somali government was chosen by foreign
nations, not by Somalia’s; that is why there has been a war between the
U.N.-backed [government] and the insurgents for at least a decade.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/africa-mainmenu-27/6460-somalias-transitional-government-extended-its-mandate-unconstitutionally

Rebels will not pursue Libyan leader
Muammar Gaddafi over crimes they say he has committed if he steps down
from his post in the next 72 hours, the head of the rebel National
Libyan Council has told Al Jazeera.

"If he leaves Libya immediately, during 72 hours, and stops the
bombardment, we as Libyans will step back from pursuing him for crimes,"
Mustafa Abdel Jalil, head of the opposition National Council, told Al
Jazeera on Tuesday.

He said the deadline would not be extended beyond 72 hours.

"Based on our love for our country we have proposed to the
[Gaddafi's] indirect negotiators that a solution can be reached," Jalil
told Al Jazeera.

"Conditions are that firstly he stops all combat in the fields,
secondly that his departure is within 72 hours; thirdly we may waive our
right of domestic prosecution ... for the crimes of oppression,
persecution, starvation and massacres.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/03/201138133847222111.html

This revolution was born of the protests that started with the great
march against the Iraq war in 2003 and were continued by Kefaya and,
later, other groups, and spread so that by 2011 every sector of society
was shouting. It was in 2004 that protest
slogans started to pinpoint what would become the targets of this
revolution: "Down, down with Hosni Mubarak," broke a barrier of fear.
And next came: "State security, tell us straight / Where's our security?
Where's our state?"

My moment of personal unease came on Saturday
5 February. I'd been to the square, gone to a studio to do an
interview, then rushed home to keep a 6pm appointment with an Indian TV
crew. A moment after I'd let the two young women with all their
equipment into the flat, my doorbell rang again. It was the concierge's
daughter. Excuse me, she said, but who are the people who have just come
to see you? Since when, I said, do you ask such questions? Well, she
said, the [state security] intelligence came round asking if there were
foreigners or media visiting any residents. It's your home and you can
do what you like, but we'll have to report to them.

I did the
interview. I even insisted on making tea. But I packed an overnight bag,
and when the young women left, I left with them. I did the next
interview on the phone, locked in my car in a dark dark garage. Then I
stayed at my brother's.

The apparatus of repression was – after
the ousting of Mubarak – the first target of the revolution: "The people
demand the dismantling of state security." This is not as mad as it
sounds, because the security of the Egyptian state is actually in the
care of the National Security Organisation. The State Security
Intelligence Service was invented more recently for use against internal
"enemies". Us.

On Friday 4 March, after Ahmad Shafiq, the
last-minute prime minister appointed by Mubarak, finally resigned, and
minutes after the new prime minister had spoken in Tahrir, people
noticed plainclothes men carrying garbage bags out of state security
headquarters in Alexandria. They intercepted the men and found the bags
contained shredded documents. The people formed a cordon and insisted
nothing leave the building. State security went on the attack. The army,
after standing on the sidelines for a while, came in on behalf of the
citizens. Within minutes the people had moved on state security
buildings across Egypt, and everywhere they found documents being
shredded or burned, and computers stripped of their hard disks. But they
found enough files to show the enormity of the operation that had been
in place against the Egyptian people. They found prisoners in
underground cells, and they found the pink bathroom of Habib al-Adly,
the minister of the interior, who is now on trial.

For
one hallucinatory evening our young people were inside the state
security buildings rescuing files (pictured) and taking our calls as we
urged: "Find my file."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/08/egypt-silence-shouting-great-conversation

Of course you will wonder why already these important files were kept , there are two theories :

1. They were let because actually they are less harming than other
   files , the other explosive files including rendition and torture files
   were either moved or shredded. Torture files are more harming than
   espionage and data collecting files plus when we speak about rendition
   we are speaking about CIA covert world !! Let the people be busy with
   these files
2. They were let because the officers had no time , already according
   to the photos and films the protesters found at the HQ , the SS was
   recording yesterday’s festivities at Tahrir square carefully. Also they
   had a lot to dispose and thus they disposed what they can dispose
   quickly.Already the protesters caught two big CSF vehicles transferring
   tons of documents to unknown locations. This theory is enforced by the
   collapse of Ahmed Shafik’s cabinet. 

http://egyptianchronicles.blogspot.com/2011/03/night-capital-of-hell-fell-down.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+EgyptianChronicles+(Egyptian+chronicles)

TallieBear RT @ChangeInLibya: IF YOU HAVE THE TECHNICAL KNOW-HOW JOIN http://irc.lc/Anonops/OpLibya AND HELP US TAKE DOWN #LIBYA STATE TV ON NILESAT #opLibya #feb17

ANYBODY in LIBYA or EGYPT....

People in benghazi need update of telecom equipments. Their ability to transmit news is 5-12hrs too late. Obviously they can win the ground shooting part, but doesn't have fast enough communication line  to control situation. Can somebody in Egypt sell them these "mobile" emergency telcom equipments?

they really need closer to frontline large bandwidth. the little towns in front need to be connected quickly. Otherwise it will turn into ghost town.

Anybody in EGYPT can sell this pronto? The italian must have tons of these since they are earth quake prone.  ...

like this:



http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/29/on-the-ground-with-atandts-network-disaster-recovery-team/


Everybody in egypt. we need you to coordinate supply purchases. (just
help people in Benghazi arrange the deal and transport it quickly. By small transport
boat if need be.) Somebody definitely need to reroute
Libya's entire phone system quickly.  

come on people. ... This is the easiest way to boost the chance Libya not falling apart.

The oldest university in Libya is the University of Libya,
founded by royal decree in 1955. It was initially housed in the royal
Al Manar Palace before receiving its own campus in 1968. It was later
split and became known as Garyounis University.

Education in Benghazi, as is throughout Libya, is compulsory and free. Compulsory education continues up until ninth grade.
There are many public primary and secondary schools scattered
throughout the city as well as some private and international schools
such as Benghazi European School. University education is also free for all Libyan citizens in Benghazi.

The country's largest library containing over 300,000 volumes is affiliated with the university.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benghazi#Education

9.06pm GMT:
Al-Jazeera manages to talk to fighters near Ras Lanuf, who speak of a
large number of injured after bombing by air force jets. "Right now we
are collecting the dead and wounded. We are collecting body parts," the
unidentified fighter said.

While supplies were reaching the town
from the east, the attacks have knocked out the water plant near Ras
Lanuf, meaning that drinking water was scarce.

The same fighter
said that the rebels were keen to attack deeper into Bin Jawad but that
they are approaching cautiously because Gaddafi's forces are said to be
holding families as human shields.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/09/libya-uprising-gaddafi-yemen-live

Libya Oil pipeline map.

 (anybody has wireless coverage and fiber optic map? This is much more important at this moment. The eastern part need to turn phone/data line to their side)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x471235

March 7

Misrata resident says Libyan troops move toward Sirte

TRIPOLI, March 8 (Reuters) - Some Libyan troops besieging
the rebel-held city of Misrata left on Tuesday driving east
towards Sirte with other pro-Gaddafi troops coming from Tripoli,
a resident told Reuters by telephone.

Misrata, the largest population centre in western Libya not
under Tripoli's control, was calm on Tuesday as an unknown
number of troops from the 32nd Brigade commanded by Muammar
Gaddafi's son Khamis left, said the resident named Mohamed.

"We saw several army vehicles, including vans for the
transportation of the soldiers, leave today the areas around
Misrata and taking the direction of Sirte," he said.

Food and fuel supplies were plentiful, Mohamed said, but
there were increasing shortages in drugs and medical equipment.

Sirte, a Gaddafi stronghold, is about halfway down the
Mediterranean coast between Misrata and oil port of Ras Lanuf,
where pro-Gaddafi warplanes bombed rebel positions on Tuesday.
(Reporting by Sohail Karam, writing by Tom Heneghan; Editing
by Matthew Jones)

http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFLDE72628H20110308

Thankfully, Sirte is not an industrial town. It's all in the amount of fuel and bullet they have.

Now comes
the body blow from the Delhi meeting. The three
foreign ministers belonging to the forum that is
known by the cute acronym IBSA (India-Brazil-South
Africa) thwarted Obama's best-laid plans by
issuing a joint communique on Tuesday in which
they "underscored that a 'no-fly' zone on the
Libyan air space or any coercive measures
additional to those foreseen in Resolution 1970
can only be legitimately contemplated in full
compliance with the UN Charter and within the
Security Council of the United Nations".


Brazilian Foreign Minister Antonio de
Aguiar Patriota told the media in Delhi that the
IBSA statement was an "important measure" of what
the non-Western world was thinking". He said, "The
resort to a 'no-fly' zone is seen as expedient
when adopted by a country but it weakens the
system of collective security and provokes
indirect consequences prejudicial to the objective
we have been trying to achieve." Patriota added:

It is very problematic to intervene
militarily in a situation of internal turmoil,
Any decision to adopt military intervention
needs to be considered within the UN framework
and in close coordination with the African Union
and the Arab League. It is very important to
keep in touch with them and identify with their
perception of the situation.

He
explained that measures like a no-fly zone might
make a bad situation worse by giving fillip to
anti-US and anti-Western sentiments "that have not
been present so far".

Equally significant
was the fact that the trio of foreign ministers
also penned a joint statement on the overall
situation in the Middle East. Dubbed as the "IBSA
Declaration", it reiterated the three countries'
expectation that the changes sweeping across the
Middle East and North Africa should "follow a
peaceful course" and expressed their confidence in
a "positive outcome in harmony with the
aspirations of the people".

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MC10Ak03.html

Founding statement of the Interim Transitional National Council

The Interim Transitional National Council (The council) held its first
meeting on Saturday 5th of March 2011 in the city of Benghazi, the
temporary location, till the liberation of Tripoli the Capital City and
the permanent location of The Council.

The Council derives its legitimacy from the city councils who run the
liberated cities, and who had been formed by the revolution of the 17th
February to fulfil the revolutionary gains in order to achieve their
goals. The Council is headed by Mr Mustafa Abdeljeleel and the meeting
is attended by:

1. Mr. Othman Suleiman El-Megyrahi (Batnan Area)
2. Mr. Ashour Hamed Bourashed (Darna City)
3. Dr. Abdelallah Moussa El-myehoub (Qouba Area)
4. Mr. Zubiar Ahmed El-Sharif (Representative of the political prisoners)
5. Mr. Ahmed Abduraba Al-Abaar (Benghazi City)
6. Mr.Dr. Fathi Mohamed Baja (Benghazi City)
7. Mr. Abdelhafed Abdelkader Ghoga (Benghazi City)
8. Mr Fathi Tirbil and Dr. Salwa Fawzi El-Deghali (Representative of youth and women)

1. The council declares Mr. Omer El-Hariri as its representative of the Military Affairs for Safety and Security of Libya.
2. The Council also declares the information of the Executive Team to
   administrate the crisis and to deal with currant situations. The
   function of the Executive Team is to run all foreign matters and to
   represent the foreign affairs of Libya. It is headed by Dr. Mohamed
   Jebril Ibrahim El-Werfali and Dr Aziz Al-Eisawi as the reprehensive of
   the Foreign affairs of Libya. The council declares that there will be
   more members to the Executive Team to run the main vital sectors of the
   country after further discussions between the head of the Executive Team
   and the Council.

http://ntclibya.org/english/founding-statement-of-the-interim-transitional-national-council/

National Transitional Council

In Libya, the National Transitional Council (Arabic: المجلس الوطني الانتقالي, al-majlis al-waṭanī al-intiqālī) is a body formed by anti-Gaddafi rebels during the 2011 uprising. Its formation was announced in the city of Benghazi
on 27 February 2011 and its intended purpose is to act as the
"political face of the revolution". In some media outlets, the council
is referred to as the "National Libyan Council" or the "Libyan National
Council". On 5 March 2011, the council issued a statement in which it
declared itself to be the "sole representative of all Libya".^[1][2][3] The council refers to the Libyan state as the Libyan Republic (Arabic: الجمهورية الليبية al-Jumhūriyya al-Lībiyya).<sup>[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_National_Council</sup>

Muammar Qaddafi is still trying to play the al-Qaeda card, arguing
that his murderous regime is what stands between Europe and the
emigration to it of thousands of Muslim extremists. He told Turkish television that his regime is a key element of stability in the Eastern Mediterranean, and its fall would bring chaos there, including to Israel.

So, who knew? Qaddafi is the guarantor of Israel’s security and that
of Europe? It is a desperate attempt to induce caution with regard the
growing move in the West toward some sort of military intervention to
prevent Tripoli from massacring the rebels.

Interestingly, Qaddafi’s language seems calculated to appeal to the
far right in Europe and Israel, which views all Muslims as potential
terrorists. It is an attempt to build a Qaddafi-National
Front-Likud-Peter King front against the democracy movement in the
Middle East. Qaddafi also sent an envoy Wednesday to the military council that is running Egypt.
Since the pro-rebel tribe Awlad Ali dominates Salloum, the Egyptian
city on the Libyan border, the rebels presumably are getting some
supplies from their Egyptian allies. Qaddafi is probably keen to cut
them off. His fear-mongering about al-Qaeda might have some purchase
with right wing officers such as Omar Suleiman.

Aljazeera Arabic points out that the rebel forces, far from being
“al-Qaeda,” are mostly disgruntled youth from major Libyan tribes such
as Zintan. The keywords preferred by statements from such tribes are secular ones–
the nation, the people, the army. Muslim fundamentalists speak of the
“umma” or the ‘community of believers’ when they talk about the nation,
whereas those imbued with civil discourse use terms like the ‘watan’
(originally a translation of the French ‘patrie’ or fatherland), and
speak of ‘the people’ (sha’b) rather than ‘the believers.’ It is this
civil language that the rebels speak, in all the communiques I’ve seen.

Pro-Qaddafi forces are being accused by residents of Zawiya,
an important oil town to the west of Tripoli, of pursuing a scorched
earth policy in the city, according to the BBC. Some 50 tanks and 150
armored vehicles are said to be indiscriminately wreaking havoc on the
infrastructure.

Aljazeera Arabic is showing scenes, nevertheless, of defiant,
chanting crowds in Zawiya during the past two days, at times dispersed
by live ammunition directed at them by Qaddafi’s men. It is reporting
as of early morning Wednesday that there are still resistance fighters
in the central square of the town, which has not been completely subdued
by forces from Tripoli. It remains mysterious as to why such heavy
armored forces are having such trouble taking the central square;
presumably they are facing heavy rocket-propelled grenade fire; the
rebels have shown that they can kill tanks that way. An interviewee
from Zawiya says by telephone that there are no phone lines and there is
no internet in the city, and residents cannot now get out.

http://www.juancole.com/2011/03/qaddafis-scorched-earth-policy-at-home-and-abroad.html

KUWAIT CITY — Hundreds of young Kuwaitis demonstrated for reform in
the oil-rich Gulf emirate on Tuesday and the replacement of the current
prime minister.

Around 1,000 people gathered in a square near
government offices on the seafront amid tight security with a helicopter
hovering overhead.

The venue for the rally had been changed at
the last minute after authorities cordoned off Safat Square in the
centre of the capital Kuwait City.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iqCGIVqX7t2HZHKicYPHBTTwYXuw?docId=CNG.08dc880232fd4c049d2f1a10f4641409.981

From 2 weeks ago

10.12am: France has just become the first major European power to recognise the Libyan national council in Benghazi as the legitimate representative of Libyan people.

France is to open an embassy in Benghazi and will allow the Libyan embassy in Paris to reopen.

This will be welcomed by the Libyan council, which has been pushing for such recognition.

'mkay people

The end of Gadaffi in Libya is nearing . Time is up for him. Everybody in Libya who is for democracy has to stick together now, you gonna need to follow your field commanders leadership in the coming weeks. Try not to run around like crazy, cause there is a limit to modern stand off weapons. You gonna have to do most of the heavy lifting yourself. This is despite not having fast communication line. So be alert. Try not to stand near gaddaffi's large items in front line. tanks, airplanes, etc. (my suggestion to pro gadaffi's side. time to hand back those big equipments to the Libyan people's. You won't last long inside it.) try not to be inside Gadaffi's compound (still can't see through wall yet, so they gonna have to flatten all those.) Move transitional's government large equipments where your commanders know where it is, specially in fast moving front line. Watch for Gadaffi's side doing hail mary rush, cause that's the most obvious tactical move to do in less than precise bombing/salient frontline. For that you need to build tactical retreat, kill box and real defense line.

you gonna have to provide fresh and reliable front line news to everybody, specially back to transitional leaders and your military council. 

Libya is breaking to millions little pieces, so everybody has to use their heads and stick together. Everybody is going to need all those equipments to  bring everybody home safe and rebuild Libya. So between delicate surgery or crude oversize bang, you can guess which one is going to be considered.

The fight against Gaddafi maybe the easy part, because you have to work together afterward to decide on new government without killing each other. That would be far harder than this civil war. Most analysis is not giving you a lot of positive outlook, so you gonna have to be very careful on that part.

Who knows what to do with remaining stubborn Gadaffi's fighters if they choose to keep fighting, that would be a little complicated....

Godspeed. The world is watching.

PS. frankly, I think you should finish this yourself. You are almost there, you know more than anybody else. Plus, Gaddaffi isn't a great strategist. He lost a big chunk of his guys just to get several towns for a few days. not good.